And nor do I. I'm calling it how I saw it, just like you. I'm making nothing up. And I don't care about neutrality because, when Saints play another team, I'm not a neutral! I'm a Saints fan! And I don't like to see one of our best young players needlessly taken out like that.


Well, if you want to form an accurate opinion on that kick, you need to watch the replay. I've watched it twice now (not for that tackle; just because I wanted to watch the match back). Hoffman was late, needlessly forceful and he's taken out a great young player who deserved a chance at no.6. Hoffman shoulder charged Wheeler at pace in the shoulder. Surprise, surprise, Wheeler's shoulder is now knackered.

If it was late then why wasn't it penalised? Or for that matter why wasn't it put on report?

Why wasn't the blatent forward pass called as a forward pass? It was still a forward pass even though it wasn't called. Even your coach thought so, and we all saw him think so! Just because our crap touchies/refs don't call something doesn't mean to say it didn't happen. Maybe the RFL will have something to say about it; maybe they won't. Time will tell.

The tackle should not be judged harsh because it was on a young player.It was either late or not,the fact that it was on a youngster should not come into it.

I had more issues with O'loughlins high shots than that tackle.

I agree. However, that fact that it was done on a talented young player who finally had the chance to show us what he had to offer (and it looked very good up to then) has particularly upset me.


They were all over the place, weren't they?

I loved Jammer's hit on Lima though. That was man on man, fair and square, you are mine!

I watched it again, and i'd say it was a couple of seconds late and i would also say Hoffman had no intention of charging the kick down, he went for the man. It should have been penalised and he should have had 10 minutes in the bin, IMO.

Ah good. A fan with eyes to see!

You mean like the one on Wilkin? Surprised he didn't ask the ref to put it on report

There is a distinct difference between physicality and dangerous play. Thankfully, these days, this is recognised and their are rules in place to protect players.

Stop with the hate! It didn't get dealt with, so nothing will get done.

IN THE REFEREES EYES, it was ok, so it was ok.

Just because you've been living in Wire's shadow all these years


hahaha, sorry! Had to throw that in on this board somewere!!!

Lent is over.
Have you been on the wine already?

English teacher, come on?

Do you have a life or are you really so sad that in order to make yourself feel better about yourself you follow me around the boards?

sad old git