Just think of the SH we can get to replace long with the free cap space. It sure as hell wont be some overated muppet like Tim Smith

Don't you need to be rated before being overrated?

How many times have you seen Tim Smith actually play?

I've seen him play several times in this country and he has never really impressed me tbh - some of that may be the fact he was overshadowed by Barrett when I have seen him so I guess we'll wait and see this year.

He played very well yesterday (yes it was against Leigh). He has slimmed down and was very enthusiastic. Two of the Wigan tries came from his passes (the first was a beauty).

I have my concerns on how he and Tommy will play as a pair but they have been o.k. v Huddersfield and Leigh.

As you say, time will tell.

Well from what I saw last year he did need to lose a few pounds but I would imagine that came from his time off. I thought his natural position was 7 rather than a 6 too and in honesty I really expected TL to play more Hooker this year spelling with Riddell and using young Tomkins at 6

Plenty fyi. Dont rate him one bit im afraid.

The messiah returns

Not unless Rogue's looks like Bryn!

www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html Would you take him back in 2 years time with the abundance of youngsters coming through, wheeler, armstrong, foster, lomax, haggerty etc

www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... tlead.html Would you take him back in 2 years time with the abundance of youngsters coming through, wheeler, armstrong, foster, lomax, haggerty etc

What makes you think that the current crop of Superleague youngsters are going to be any better than the ones we have failed to produce for 13 years?

not guarantees but personally id like to see those mentioned above given a shot, as much as it pains me to say this to u brian i agree with you on most young player discussions as youll recall but i think those mentioned will succeed