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| Quote: SaintsFan "Of course you do mean that we raised the bar and now Wire and Pies have caught up.'"
I think they have more than caught up as they have now passed us while we still in rebuilding phase.
Full credit Is due to saints over last 2/3 years as we've remained in the hunt while rebuilding.
Your correct, saints raised the bar and set the standard for every super league club in the super league era.
With the addition of few good quality players and the current young squad I think it won't be long before we overtake Wigan and Warrington.
IMO Wigan don't look half the team they was last year so far this year.
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| Quote: St pete "Your correct, saints raised the bar and set the standard for every super league club in the super league era. '"
That's exactly what I meant. The peak of that was 2006. No-one else has yet managed a 2006 of their own. Until they do, we were the ones to set the standard, no matter where our current team is in the league or what it is like.
Quote: St pete "IMO Wigan don't look half the team they was last year so far this year.'"
I agree. Warrington have been the ones to shine so far this season.
I'm happy with the way our play is developing so far. We are looking more expansive, even if it is early days yet. I'll be more than happy if we are playing in the style of Wests Tigers by the back end of the season.
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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "If i was a Saints fan id be a little concerned that every time your right centre position was attacked (Shenton) Rovers had a lot of joy.'"
Shenton was the guy with "No 3, Shenton" on his shirt. Defending one in from Gaskell, who was marking Welham and later Webster in the centre channel. I suggest you take your glasses next time
And, I'm sorry Briscoe got injured, but there was absolutely no foul play in Lomax's jump for the ball - its just one of those things.
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| Quote: Gavin Miller - Legend "And your (sic) way off Wigan standard at the moment IMO.'"
I wouldn't say we're way off - we're only 1 point above them and it's a long season. They could well still finish above us.
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| Stop crying Hull KR fans. You should be more concerned at the fact your squad is full of overseas rubbish. Had Hull KR give youth a chance regulary then you might of had a replacement for Briscoe in your reserves.
Poor way of taking defeat.
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| Quote: Obsessive Saint "Stop crying Hull KR fans. You should be more concerned at the fact your squad is full of overseas rubbish. Had Hull KR give youth a chance regulary then you might of had a replacement for Briscoe in your reserves.
Poor way of taking defeat.'"
We have replacements but Morgan never gives them enough game time !
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| Quote: nick hkr "Nice to know it is legendary, just shows you notice, maybe a more accomodating kick off time would bring service back to normal? Along with lower fuel prices and cheap tickets???'"
To be fair, some of your fans have created a rod for your own backs with their boasts of away support numbers. A few years back a HKR fan got very het up walking out of Knowsley Road when a mate of mine did not think that you'd brought much more than 1000 if that.
On the Lomax/Briscoe collision, I thought they both went up to win the ball and collided mid air. No problem with the pen as they tend to get given, but didn't think he actually tackled him in mid air.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "On the Lomax/Briscoe collision, I thought they both went up to win the ball and collided mid air. No problem with the pen as they tend to get given, but didn't think he actually tackled him in mid air.'" I had a good veiw of it, and Lomax jumped for the ball fair and square. I also didn't think the penalty given against Gaskell for similar was right either, I thought he timed it well to hit him as he landed.
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| Winding up Hull KR fans aside.
Saints will struggle to get many away fans with Friday night kick offs end of.
Widnes joining the SL will help next year, but any team travelling further than Manchester it's a 50/50 call if you leave work at 5 get home to see the kids and then hop on the Motorway. You can't get the family groups to attend. I understand it's better for the locals from a Saints point of view. In the end if Saints can grow their own fans then rightly they do not need to consider the away fans. It's more telling that those teams who need the away fans tend to run more of their games on a Sat/Sun.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "To be fair, some of your fans have created a rod for your own backs with their boasts of away support numbers. A few years back a HKR fan got very het up walking out of Knowsley Road when a mate of mine did not think that you'd brought much more than 1000 if that.
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I think I was there that game too and in all fairness we did take more than 1000 and your mate clearly underestimated the numbers. For coaches alone I think we took around that figure and there were plenty more cars. But I ask would you rather "only a 1000" fans or Wakey, Hudds, Quins, Catlans, Crusaders...etc travel every week and bring a mighty 10-100 away fans??
If all those 1000 fans bought their tickets from HKR that is £18000 minus the £1800 Rovers got for selling the tickets it would mean You get £16,200 out of Hull KR coming over. I don't doubt you'd rather a game against Warrington, Wigan and possibly Widnes because they will bring more over on a Friday night. But the fact still remains St Helens are probably yet to bring more than 500 away fans to Craven Park.
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| Quote: nick hkr "I think I was there that game too and in all fairness we did take more than 1000 and your mate clearly underestimated the numbers.'"
Really, you've got a remarkably good memory, what was the score?
Quote: nick hkr "For coaches alone I think we took around that figure and there were plenty more cars. But I ask would you rather "only a 1000" fans or Wakey, Hudds, Quins, Catlans, Crusaders...etc travel every week and bring a mighty 10-100 away fans?? '"
I've never seen 20 plus coaches from any team at St Helens, which would be the minimum required for that number.
Quote: nick hkr "If all those 1000 fans bought their tickets from HKR that is £18000 minus the £1800 Rovers got for selling the tickets it would mean You get £16,200 out of Hull KR coming over. I don't doubt you'd rather a game against Warrington, Wigan and possibly Widnes because they will bring more over on a Friday night. But the fact still remains St Helens are probably yet to bring more than 500 away fans to Craven Park.'"
All nice, but absolutely nothing to do with HKR away support being good, but not as good as you think it is.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Really, you've got a remarkably good memory, what was the score?
I've never seen 20 plus coaches from any team at St Helens, which would be the minimum required for that number.
All nice, but absolutely nothing to do with HKR away support being good, but not as good as you think it is.'"
If it was the game I think you meant it was our first visit to Knowsley Rd in years in 2007? 42-14 to you guys and I think Dyer scored one for us but cant remember exactly.
I think our away support is in bigger numbers than at least 8 other SL teams, I believe chairmen accross the league look forward to the teams with bigger than average away support coming. If Saints were to bring 10% of their home support (from the Knowsley Rd days) to Craven Park as we often have to your ground Rovers may actually get their much needed 10k attendance figures.
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| Quote: nick hkr "If it was the game I think you meant it was our first visit to Knowsley Rd in years in 2007? 42-14 to you guys and I think Dyer scored one for us but cant remember exactly.
I think our away support is in bigger numbers than at least 8 other SL teams, I believe chairmen accross the league look forward to the teams with bigger than average away support coming. If Saints were to bring 10% of their home support (from the Knowsley Rd days) to Craven Park as we often have to your ground Rovers may actually get their much needed 10k attendance figures.'"
If you could actually see the game from the away end you might get more!
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| Quote: nick hkr "If it was the game I think you meant it was our first visit to Knowsley Rd in years in 2007? 42-14 to you guys and I think Dyer scored one for us but cant remember exactly. '"
Actually I think it was the one you won 20-19. You may well have brought more than 1000, but it was the blokes real upset at the thought that someone might not think you'd brought half the crowd that was amazing.
Quote: nick hkr "I think our away support is in bigger numbers than at least 8 other SL teams.'"
I think it probably is, it's definitely one of the biggest in the league, I just don't think it's as good as some of your fans make out it is.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "If you could actually see the game from the away end you might get more!'"
You can
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