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We're hideously light in the forwards, but Saints know this, they offered Jammer the world to stay and Griffin more money than Leeds. Time to blood some of the young props and see what happens, might be a disaster, might be genius

oh, and dropping Makinson and putting Wello at fb had a great effect on our defence, a spent force its sad to say

It's not the worst signing the club has ever done as he's a good player but the they gave him a four year deal is shocking!

Two years would have been correct choice if he was signed as a fullback. I wouldn't have touched him at all for a halfback as its a massive risk and the halves are very important positions to take risks on.


The sooner we get someone to sort out our recruitment policy the better. It's just ruining our team with stupid unreal decisions.

Lets not jump into a pit, we are doing better than last season and we got to the GF there.

We have not seen the match and so have no idea how lance and lomax played, we have no idea about our kicking game, who made the tries? From the score the attack did not seam to be suffering, it was all defence defence defence.

Lets not pretend we are not Saints, we always get results like this were we forget to defend.

A bit of a disaster today all in. To lose 36 points to a HKR team missing a lot of players is unforgivable. We need to seriously work on defence. The team is capable of great defence as the second play off second half against Wigan last season showed.

Sounds like we have a few problems from what the other posters are saying. I was never convinced by the Lance signing. Not that anybody could be blamed for this but if we had had the foresight to see how Gaskell, Lomax, Wheeler and Makinson have developed I am pretty sure we would never have got him, especially on a four year deal. The money should have been used on buying a replacement for Jammer. Unfortunately we are where we are and we are just going to have to run with it

As I have said time and again on here, when Gaskell does not play we really miss him, and for me should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.

All in all we have to be happy with a point because it could have and probably should have been a whole lot worse.

Not going to go into full knee-jerk mode after a draw at a place we usually lose in the middle of February. Defense was obviously shocking, but it is 4/5 months before that will start to matter as many teams have shown before. If it is still so bad then I'll start to panic.

If memory serves me right, I remember when we lost about 4 in a row early season under Anderson culminating in getting tonked away at Castleford in the snow. It was absolutely freezing and I was fuming, but we won the Challenge cup and made the Grand Final so lesson learned.

Did anyone who has commented actually go, do we know for certain we missed gaskell???

I'm a huge Gaskell fan, but I don't think he could have done much about our defense and with out eye witness reports the radio is not enough to go on.

Both sides played sum good rugby but also sum defensive shockers,really we were lucky to get the 1 point as a rule foster doesn't miss the goals he did today, Ano we have a few players out injured but the players we have to replace them did us proud today, I think a draw was a fair result to be honest and it was a cracking Game.

According to 'Official St.Helens RLFC' on facebook, Hohaia was playing class and I know he set up a try for Flannery. All I can say on that really.

To be fair, Rovers didnt appear to miss Dobson and Green as much as we normally would because our forwards totally dominated yours. If I was a Saints fan I wouldn't be so bothered about who is playing fb or so and worry about where your go-forward is going to come from other than Roby.
I've never seen a weaker Saints pack.