Why does Brown get another chance? After the programme notes following the cup exit, McManus's credibility will be shot to pieces if Brown gets to see another game as our coach.

I'm just glad I can sit here in ignorance having not seen the game. But even I can't ignore that terrible start and think everything is OK

Because it costs money to replace and I don't see MacManus forking out again to pay off one coach and possibly prize another one away.

It's all well and good saying Powell, but Powell is doing very well at Cas and does not need Saints.

On what basis?

I disagree on this. Yes, it was a stupid pass, but other than that he was hitting harder than his teammates and was making tackles that his teammates were missing. It's sad that players who are far more physically equipped than him to play in his current position can't show the same guts.

Wellens tried everything he could in attack and defence. He certainly wasn't the first to throw a miracle ball, and it's just what had to be done, it was do or die at that point - and at least he tried (more than some)

It's hard to say anyone can hold their heads up after that. Individually, Mose did some good things, Walsh did some good things, the rest were wasteful or invisible at best.

It is collectively we are seriously in trouble, line speed is dire, aggression is none existent, structure is pretty much the last word I'd use to describe us in both attack and defence. On top of that, our conditioning is very poor, and the tackling technique is below amateur. We just can't seem to show any motivation what-so-ever.

Bitterly disappointed in that performance isn't the word. We have a collection of players who i know can play 10x better than that, but any sort of must win game and we capitulate like a stack of cards...

The comparisons between Wane of Wigan and Nathan Brown are to me that Wane is a
Wiganer through and through,talks and acts like a supporter,and then compare him with Brown who to me looks like he would be rather on Bondi Beach with a few tinnies...

Wellens talks a cracking game doesn't he?

Wellens is not the problem. He was spot on.

He used to play one, too.

For me its clear, Brown has zero passion for Saints at all.

No, he's just one of many players who speak a good game.

Is Jon Wilkin going to be on the SL show this week?

I watched Paul Wellens comments after the game & I spent the whole interview face palming.
He was brutal about his team mates, he showed his passion for RL & Saints. I know Saddened thinks Paul is way past his best before date, but tonight Paul really impressed me with his honesty & passion.

I think Brown might go. We've been pretty dire for weeks now. Today we didn't respect the ball, threw stupid passes and had poor discpline which Warrington capitalised on. Simple as that really, too many passengers and average players in that team.