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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I would put good money in there being no quote in this thread about mm biting wellens being the reason we lost. There are plenty of reasons, in plenty of other threads, but it don't think anyone's suggesting it lost us the game!

That however, doesn't excuse any player biting in whatever circumstance it happens to be. This isn't a straw clutch, it's a desire to see foul play punished. Tbh knowing this board as I do, there'd be an equally long thread, saying pretty much the same thing if it were the other way around.

We have no idea whether an official complaint was made until Tuesday when the disciplinary is announced (or whenever it is over Easter)

The simple logic is, there are plenty of ways to milk a penalty from a modern game, without claiming foul play. Wellens is clearly seen complaining after the tackle is affected, and evidence, circumstantially at least, suggests MM's teeth and wellens arm came into contact.'"

If there has been foul play then I agree that it should be punished. You don't know if a complaint has been made but in the meantime you are judging someone guilty until proven innocent.

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Quote: nohalfbacks "If there has been foul play then I agree that it should be punished. You don't know if a complaint has been made but in the meantime you are judging someone guilty until proven innocent.'"


We are not the jury and have no say on if he's guilty or not but as this is a open forum we can post our opinion.

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Quote: nohalfbacks "If there has been foul play then I agree that it should be punished. You don't know if a complaint has been made but in the meantime you are judging someone guilty until proven innocent.'"


I have seen the evidence, and formed my own opinion? Isnt that what the disciplinary will do? (and they ultimately won't have much more than we do) Isn't that the entire point of all discussion here?

It doesn't require a complaint to be made for it to be foul play btw

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "I have seen the evidence, and formed my own opinion? Isnt that what the disciplinary will do? (and they ultimately won't have much more than we do) Isn't that the entire point of all discussion here?

It doesn't require a complaint to be made for it to be foul play btw'"

Your previous post said that he had complained and that it was being looked into. I am not aware that Wellens had lodged a complaint? I have also seen the evidence and MY opinion is that the video is inconclusive whereas this thread is filled with strong opinions that it is clearly foul play. I disagree. That's my opinion. The only foul play that is absolutely clear in the video is an arm in MM's face.

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Quote: nohalfbacks "Your previous post said that he had complained and that it was being looked into. I am not aware that Wellens had lodged a complaint? I have also seen the evidence and MY opinion is that the video is inconclusive whereas this thread is filled with strong opinions that it is clearly foul play. I disagree. That's my opinion. The only foul play that is absolutely clear in the video is an arm in MM's face.'"


Quote: nohalfbacks "Wellens sticks his arm into MM's face/mouth. When he gets up he reacts as though he thinks he has been bitten but then immediately gets on with the game. Now if he really thought that he had been bitten then winging Wello would have been straight in the refs face complaining. He didn't which indicates to me that this is all a storm in a tea cup.'"


Your opinion originally was that wellens didn't "whinge" enough for it to be anything, then that it was saints fans "looking for reasons why we lost" - only now is it that you think it's inconclusive? Also, as with the "accidental biting" earlier in the thread wellens forearm and MM's head connected isn't immediately indicative of foul play. Nor is wellens arm and MM's teeth connecting foul play. The action of clamping down (aka biting) is - as has been asked, why would wellens make any sort of complaint (which is seen in the 16second video of the incident) if he didn't think there was force?

Also, I may be wrong, but any complaint of ungentlemanly conduct is immediately reported to the match commissioner (I know it is at amateur level) - so it will have to of been in his report at some level, even if wellens chose not to make a formal complaint. He is clearly seen making the complaint at the time (you acknowledge this) so it is now the disciplinary's responsibility to decide whether to investigate further

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No Biting Charge on Disciplinary Section of RFL Website. Clearly not in Silverdud's report and not raised as a complaint to the match commisioner.

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Quote: St_Cunningham_no9 "No Biting Charge on Disciplinary Section of RFL Website. Clearly not in Silverdud's report and not raised as a complaint to the match commisioner.'"


What did S O'Loughlin get? Anything?

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Quote: Saddened! "What did S O'Loughlin get? Anything?'"


Nope, Nfa

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Quote: Saddened! "What did S O'Loughlin get? Anything?'"


icon_lol.gif Why would he?

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Quote: dubairl "

Because he was put on report? You do know what the means don't you? Chance of a ban yeah?

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Quote: TheSaints87 "Because he was put on report? You do know what the means don't you? Chance of a ban yeah?'"


and you seriously expected him to get charged for it? just because its on report doesn't mean you have been charged for it.

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Quote: dubairl "and you seriously expected him to get charged for it? just because its on report doesn't mean you have been charged for it.'"


No, when did i say that? When did anyone say that? Saddened was just asking.

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Quote: TheSaints87 "No, when did i say that? When did anyone say that? Saddened was just asking.'"


well he ask anything about o'loughlin? and clearly it was going to be penalty sufficient or what ever they call it these day. So my point stands why would there be anything.

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Quote: dubairl "well he ask anything about o'loughlin? and clearly it was going to be penalty sufficient or what ever they call it these day. So my point stands why would there be anything.'"


Right OK guys remember not to ask about any disciplinary action if dubairl's thoughts oppose your own.

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or put the brain in gear and use common sense that a player won't be punished for a nothing incident.

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