We created plenty of overlaps, but it seemed a team wide initiative that as soon as space was found, the correct thing to do is simply let the ball fall to ground.

Same here. The ease with which that first try was scored after Green dropped off him in the tackle had me seriously nervous!

the times weve been shafted by this clown when playing you lot..that comment made me smile....

Just got back from my holidays, is the game worth watching? From what I've read, senior players let us down and there was a lack of passion. Anything else to add to that?

The first half is ok although it'll leave you feeling frustrated at our defensive ineptitude but I really wouldn't bother with the second half. You'll just walk out of the room in disgust! Put it this way, anyone with even half a life has a better way to spend 40 minutes than watching Saints playing at their most incompetent.

Offside from kickoff and knocking on from kickoff pretty much sums it up for us. Enthusiasm and aggression beat us again, as it has more often than not with Wane in charge. He can get them up for a derby, whereas it seems Brown can't. Average players with a bit of fire and motivation, that's all, something we can't match on derby day.

Off side at this kick off was a joke. I hate it when a ref gives that. If they give it once they have to do it every time and most teams are off side from the kick offs.

On this occasion though Silverdud couldn't ignore it because Richards was a mile offside. He was so offside it was ridiculous.

The same can be said about the Wigan knock on from the kick off in the second half ... But he did ignore that

I just think it's a joke. If your 1m or 2m offside it's still offside. Every team is offside on kick offs but it's never given. I think silverdud was just being petty.

It was pretty hilarious given his reluctance to give penalties for offside generally. Wigan exploited his weakness to the max, not bothering to go back to the ref and setting off early as well. There were so many examples of horrendously blatant offsides, including one where a Wigan forward set off with his hand planted on the referee, one where the ref couldn't see the play the ball as there were Wigan players directly in front of him and one where he told a couple of Wigan players to get back because they were offside, only for them to charge through and make the tackle and he didn't give the penalty.

It's something we need to do as a club. If the referee isn't giving penalties for offside, be offside all the time and he'll continue to not give penalties.

I just took it as the refs being under a little fan pressure to not give anything to Saints for the next few games.

You tend to find when people independence is called into question they will go above and beyond to show they are not trying to favour one side. It will be like this for a little while until some other side becomes the refs supposed bias and then that side will get a more microscopic examination of their game and then the playoffs will kick in and the refs and fans will settle down and not be so up tight about refs and more about the players.