I agree with everything well except for the NRL been exciting, up until 2-3 years ago I though super league was a better spectator sport. However its a long time since I watched the NRL so maybe it has picked up.

I find the NRL is easy to watch because even though it's slower than Super League has been typically, it's so much cleaner around the ruck. They play the game in a more crisp way, play the balls are done properly, it's slowed naturally if the defending team wins the collision, it's quick if the ball carrier does and the basic skills are always executed more sharply and you see less basic errors. The NRL sides pretty much always have good kicking games, so whilst it's still defensively minded and 5 drives and a kick like Super League has become, it's done to a higher standard. There is also a much wider spread of elite players, it seems pretty much every side in the NRL has a 'wow' player, where in Super league the better players don't stay at clubs like Wakefield, London, Salford, Cas etc they move on to the big clubs very quickly.

Bulldogs - Barba, Sea Eagles - Lyon, Storm - Slater, Rabbitos- Inglis, Cowboys - Thurston, Broncos - Thaiday, Raiders - Dugan, Sharks - Gallen, Knights - Uate, Titans - Bird, Eels - Hayne, Dragons - Morris, Roosters - Pearce, Warriors - Johnson, Tigers - Marshall, Panthers - Jennings.

I bet it would be pretty embarassing by comparison to list the Super League clubs like that.

It's helped by the fact that it's a pretty level playing field, any of the teams can make a push for the top, sure some teams are ''bigger'' than others but it's not a HUGE difference like we see in Super League.

And you think all Super League is 5 drives and a kick, did you see Wakefield and Widnes the other day? Couldn't even get through five drives!

Is your girlfiend Mike Rush?

Two great wins, away from home, against the two "top" teams in the league, both off the back of great defense. Where did that come from? I reckon it came from games like the London one, maybe not the most exciting, but perfect preparation for the big games to come. Why is rush our coach? Because he has set a course to get us to OT. We aren't there yet, but he's given it a chuffing good go.

Have to admit that that result shocked the bloody life out of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think it's shocking how anyone can question the job mike Rush has done this year. Is sole job was to get us in a postion to put a play off run together and he did that, we then beat Warrington in their own back yard and only one game from old Trafford.

The guy has no top level coaching experince, took over a team with zero confidence but he's still bagged for "not playing young players" and " playing boring rugby"

Well done Mike and KC, you've done a terrific job.

We have been to the playoffs every season since, when? 2006? Or did we get into the playoffs in 2005? I can't remember. Anyway, obviously since 2006 at the latest.

In that time we have had Anderson, Potter, Simmons and now Rush as coaches. Clearly our ability to play play off rugby is not simply a coaching matter otherwise we wouldn't be so consistent across so many coaches.

IMO it's a mentality. What the players showed tonight was what they generally haven't showed this season: a desire to play. I think the last time we saw Saints play anything near that kind of rugby was against Leeds at Langtree Park. I feel like I've been duped out of my season ticket after the trugid rot I've had to watch. I might not bother paying out next year and just turn up for the play offs, like Saints have done.

We can only hope!!!!

I kinda get it both ways. I think Rush has exceeded expectations. We have also had some very dull moments. It's been effective rugby this year. Players picked on their defensive qualities.


We've all bagged him for not picking gaskell etc. Me included.

There is an arguement to be had about whether playing conservative rugby in the weekly rounds does not help sell season tickets the life blood of RL clubs. But tonight is not the night. Tonight has justified Rush and he should take the credit for tonight as that's the way he has coached the team all year and for playoff Rugby tight defense, is the key.

Well done Rush.

It does when we are talking about style of play which, if you'd read my post, you will clearly see that is what I was talking about.

Indeed. It's good to know you wish the club's support and finances to be reduced.