Nonsense. Meli was prevented from making the tackle a few vital seconds earlier, he was obstructed in the true sense of the word and more importantly for the last few years refs have been disallowing tries like that for alot less (including our match at the Dulls)

1. Yes it does to some extent but it also puts him off balance and takes away the momentum he had in one direction and puts him on a different trajectory.

2. It wasn't so much who gave the penalties away as who they were awarded to. (not to mention who was awarding them, there's enough being said about that elsewhere)

There's no doubting we have ourselves to blame for both last weeks and tonight's in some respects; dropped balls and wayward passes being the main things.

I thought you were a tad unlucky tonight. Quite a few key moments in the match didn't go Saints way. Were I a Saints fan I wouldn't be to disheartened over tonight's performance.

As for Hodgson's try. I though it shouldn't have been given. Bridge not only makes contact with Meli, but does enough to nearly knock him off his feet. Meli isn't able to effect the tackle on Brett because the contact by Bridge slowed Francis in moving across in the defensive line.

Exactly I'm not disheartened, disappointed though. If Meli could have got a clear shot on Hodgson I would have fancied him to prevent the try, being that Hodgson is about 8 stone.

Good win for Wire that one.

Saints once again gave an 18 point head start. It was like shades of the first 3 or 4 weeks where we gave away 16, 18 and 20 head starts to other teams. The first try was very good pressure from Monaghan a good example of the phrase you make your own luck. But then we just gave Warrington too many favours for the next 10 minutes. Ok the knock on not knock on, could have gone either way, in the end you'll see those types of drops in none try positions just get blown up the ref won't even consider whether the ball went back or not. But then later we knocked on 2 times at the wires end and the Wire fullback was away, so you could say it evened out when the ref pulled it back.

Apart from a terrible 10 minutes we played well as a team and the forwards were 100% better than last week.

Ok the top 2 is beyond us, but we are still in the hunt for the playoffs, and the CC. We will not have the mental edge come those games due to the losses to wigan , wire and huddersfield. But we will still be in the hunt and to be honest, being in the hunt is pretty good, many a team could be well out of the hunt by now. This is not a finished side, it's a side building for the future and we just need to have consistent performances for the full 80 each week.

The talent is there, but the consistency during a match and from week to week is not.

Brutal honesty one my part Wire didn't win that game Saints lost it.

tony stark wants to grow up....you lot played well tonight.tho i dont think you`ll be at old trafford you wont be far away.at the moment i put at 4th seeds behind us wigan and shudds,you wont go any higher but watch out for leeds...great game tonight..thats what matters most

Not sure about the logic.
we complain = he makes worse decisions against us;
so we should complain again = even worse decisions surely?

Am on holiday in turkey so missed the game but getting conflicting reports whether we were cheated by ref and vr? who is right?

And that is a problem when you have so many young players in your side, as we found out back in 2003/204.

Exactly and if we ever get Clough and Pryce back (the later i am finding increasingly doubtful) and both can produce some usual form, and of course we don't get any other injuries, I think we are in great shape team wise. What concerns me is the levels of intensity we put in, it is so up and down. I'd also like to see us stop using the drop off pass after first receiver as it clearly doesn't work in gaining yards and is easier to read than a copy of the Daily Sport.

Care to expand and enlighten on that?