| FORUMS > St. Helens > James Graham v Alex Walmsley |
 |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 485 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2018 | Apr 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
41988.jpg
:41988.jpg |
|
| Quote: jaybs "Walmsley more of a Jamie Peacock? come on.............and no comparison to James. Man of Steel, think Jamie Peacock is way ahead in that.'"
Compared to Peacock, Walmsley has made more metres (the most in the league), more carries (the most in the league), more tackle busts (the most in the league), more clean breaks, more offloads and has a higher average gain. Peacock way ahead you say? |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 8991 |  |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
|
|
Don't let stats get in the way of an argument that didn't exist
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Administrator | 25122 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
7.gif
:7.gif |
|
|
I think both Walmsley & Peacock are great players. But the only true metric for judging a prop's absolute worth is the NRL.
I'm sure both would prosper in that competition. But only one of the three has actually done it. This isn't something you can just sweep under the carpet.
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 324 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2015 | 10 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2020 | May 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: Saint #1 "Compared to Peacock, Walmsley has made more metres (the most in the league), more carries (the most in the league), more tackle busts (the most in the league), more clean breaks, more offloads and has a higher average gain. Peacock way ahead you say?'"
Yeah, but other than that...  |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 6767 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG |
|
| Quote: jaybs " Man of Steel, think Jamie Peacock is way ahead in that.'"
I think you are getting confused, Man of Steel is an annual event judged on the current season, NOT based on a players performance over a career. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 4958 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2022 | May 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
1649_1338292262.jpg
I have followed the LONDON CLUB since I was in my teensl even though born in St Helens and still live nearby and went to the first game at Fulham, also Big West Ham Supporter:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1649.jpg |
|
| Quote: Judder Man "I think you are getting confused, Man of Steel is an annual event judged on the current season, not based on a players performance over a career.'"
No Confusion at all! Peacock has looked as good as ever in recent games, and he has ball skills which I don't think Walmsley has, Alex is just a big guy, nothing else for me, Not international standard. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 1220 | |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Sep 2010 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2023 | Sep 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
52916_1378593744.jpg
A pint of sweat, saves a gallon of blood. - George S. Patton
In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity. - Winston Churchill
It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. - General Douglas MacArthur
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52916.jpg |
|
| Quote: jaybs "No Confusion at all! Peacock has looked as good as ever in recent games, and he has ball skills which I don't think Walmsley has, Alex is just a big guy, nothing else for me, Not international standard.'"
 What an idiot!!!!! |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 25689 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Mar 2016 | Mar 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
1617.jpg
[quote="Meyt N Prater Pie"]I think I hate wigan.[/quote]:1617.jpg |
|
| Quote: jaybs "No Confusion at all! Peacock has looked as good as ever in recent games, and he has ball skills which I don't think Walmsley has, Alex is just a big guy, nothing else for me, Not international standard.'"
There should be a filter on this forum stopping people from posting when they're drunk. |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 42 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2013 | 12 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2016 | Sep 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
70052_1432205637.jpg
[b:3dlsvk82][color=#FF0000:3dlsvk82]Wigan Warriors RL[/color:3dlsvk82][/b:3dlsvk82]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_70052.jpg |
|
| Quote: Mugwump "I think both Walmsley & Peacock are great players. But the only true metric for judging a prop's absolute worth is the NRL.
I'm sure both would prosper in that competition. But only one of the three has actually done it. This isn't something you can just sweep under the carpet.'"
So by that logic, where does that leave James Roby? Josh Hodgson must be a better hooker than Roby then. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 781 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Aug 2005 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2022 | Apr 2022 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
16900.gif
:16900.gif |
|
| Quote: Tatts "So by that logic, where does that leave James Roby? Josh Hodgson must be a better hooker than Roby then.'"
Plus andy Currier was better than Paul Newlove.  |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 6767 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG |
|
| Quote: jaybs "No Confusion at all! Peacock has looked as good as ever in recent games, and he has ball skills which I don't think Walmsley has, Alex is just a big guy, nothing else for me, Not international standard.'"
I think you are getting more confused, Man of Steel is an annual event judged on the current season and not based on your observation of recent games. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 899 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2019 | Feb 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
: |
|
| Quote: jaybs "No Confusion at all! Peacock has looked as good as ever in recent games, and he has ball skills which I don't think Walmsley has, Alex is just a big guy, nothing else for me, Not international standard.'"
This made me chuckle. Thanks for brightening up my afternoon. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Administrator | 25122 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
7.gif
:7.gif |
|
| Quote: Tatts "So by that logic, where does that leave James Roby? Josh Hodgson must be a better hooker than Roby then.'"
I would have thought it was self-explanatory. The NRL is the best competition in the world. If it isn't - why haven't we beaten the Aussies in decades?
It's like saying so-and-so is the "best player in the world" whilst plying his trade in the Dutch Football league.
To be the best you've got to beat the best. I'm not saying the likes of Walmsley or Peacock aren't capable. I am saying - they haven't. |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Star | 2681 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2011 | 14 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jul 2017 | Jul 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
58216_1342011610.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_58216.jpg |
|
|
Have I really just seen someone describe Walmsley as just a big guy?
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 73 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2006 | 19 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2017 | Sep 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
20121.gif
:20121.gif |
|
|
I think Walmsley is an excellent prop and would love him in the rhinos side. One question to you guys who watch him week in and week out, his tackling stats seem quite low is there any particular reason for this?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
