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| Looks a top prospect to me, Amazing to think he's not 100%
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| Quote: Saddened! "Shocking to read. Why didn't the club communicate this? Even if not a massive press release in as much detail as that statement, but just a note that he's been ill and it'll take time to get him back to 100%?'"
Saints announced at the time he had meningitis and was ill. He didn't play a single game for 7 month plus he also picked up another injury.
Everyone bagged Brown for not playing but obviously Brown and the club know better than fans.
Same with Charnock, he's not ready and you can see that when he plays u19s. Brown has stated Charnock isn't ready yet but still fans calling Brown for not picking him.
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| Quote: St pete "Saints announced at the time he had meningitis and was ill. He didn't play a single game for 7 month plus he also picked up another injury.
Everyone bagged Brown for not playing but obviously Brown and the club know better than fans.
Same with Charnock, he's not ready and you can see that when he plays u19s. Brown has stated Charnock isn't ready yet but still fans calling Brown for not picking him.'"
You know I'm far too important to actually read between the lines as well as along them. Be more specific next time.
So what's up with Charnock then? Just not good enough? He looked a very fine physical specimen over a year ago when he played against Salford in the snow, can't see it being physicality that's keeping him out.
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| Quote: Saddened! "You know I'm far too important to actually read between the lines as well as along them. Be more specific next time.
IMO he's not good enough. Size wise hes ready but playing wide he's not. Let's be honest, he'd pick him if he was ready as our whole season is in serious doubt now.
Nobody can expect a coach to ruin a young kids career if he's not ready. Look at Gaz Frodsham. He was saints captain and England captain but wasn't Ready.
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| After reading the quote from Mrs Savelio, pulling on a first team shirt every week is not quite the priority.
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| Quote: Saddened! "You know I'm far too important to actually read between the lines as well as along them. Be more specific next time.
There's more to "being ready for first team" than just physicality - the mentality, and maturity are as, if not more important.
Charnock has every chance of being a top class player imo (even if others disagree) - but that is in the long term. We shouldn't (and aren't) letting shortsightedness risk that. Kevin brown is a classic example of someone who was thrown in too early and has spent his entire career recovering from it...
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| His mum mentioning the NRL already suggests to me he'll be off at the first chance of a deal downunder
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| Quote: Saint Simon "His mum mentioning the NRL already suggests to me he'll be off at the first chance of a deal downunder'"
He had his first chance and turned it down? It is literally there in plain black and white :s
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "He had his first chance and turned it down? It is literally there in plain black and white
If he turns out how we expect him to, he will be down under one day, that's 100% cert!
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| Quote: St pete "If he turns out how we expect him to, he will be down under one day, that's 100% cert!'"
if he's that good, a stint like Jammer did for us before he's off will suit me
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| Quote: Saint Simon "if he's that good, a stint like Jammer did for us before he's off will suit me'"
Depending on his health I think he's going to be a superstar.
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| Quote: St pete "If he turns out how we expect him to, he will be down under one day, that's 100% cert!'"
Don't deny it, but his mums post also gave the impression we might have bought ourselves a couple of extra years by standing by him during this difficult time ..,
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| Quote: Saddened! "You know I'm far too important to actually read between the lines as well as along them. Be more specific next time.
What part of "he's not ready yet" is confusing you, and I'll try to explain?
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| Quote: Donkey OTay "What part of "he's not ready yet" is confusing you, and I'll try to explain?'"
Saddened is looking for specifics.
Charnock looked physically capable 18 months ago. That's usually the hardest part for a youngster. He looked solid enough and was kicking goals for us in atrocious weather in a close game, so his mental character looks to be okay.
Which part of him "isn't ready"? That's what we'd like to find out. Given the hideous situation of our half backs, its a real head scratcher.
To my knowledge there's no story like there was with Savelio, but feel free to correct me.
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| Maybe he. Does not look ready to the staff regardless of what others thought they saw.
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