I think you're missing the point of last night. We can only play what's in front of us. While we made some stupid errors again which led directly to at least two of their tries (we really do need to address this passive attitude - catch the ball yourself, don't wait for someone else, for example), we started very well and didn't stop for about 65 minutes. We dropped off in the last 10 minutes or so, something that needs addressing. But our degree of commitment to the cause was massively different from last week, which fundamentally was what last night was about. Winning was a bonus (although to be fair I think the team would not have been forgiven for losing had we lost!).

Line speed and commitment in defence was vastly improved. Game fell apart a bit when the rains came.

We massively miss Amor, Walmsley, Laffranchi and manu. Only Mose looked capable of making any ground at all.

I'm not on here too much any more so haven't seen any real criticism but I agree that he did well. Going forward he could develop into a real threat, he looks lively on his feet and can break tackles. He may suffer from being shunted between centre and wing like Gelling has, he's looking far better for a regular run of games in one position.

Ultimately, if someone had offered me a 19 point point victory last night at 759pm, i'd have ripped their hand off. Attitude and commitmnet were a million times better than last week.With 10 players out, I wouldn't have expected too much more. Major positives in the performances of Masoe, Wheeler and Flanagan who did a hell of a lot better than I expected. Good to see the senior players in Wello, Wilkin, Robes, Lance and Walsh stand up as well.

I was just happy to see us showing some desire. I thought we were very good in the first half. The 2nd half just saw a drop off in quality in general and was pretty hard to watch in parts, with so many errors knocking about. I'll put that down to the conditions though. I'm just hoping that we're turning the corner, rather than putting it in for one week because of everything that has been said.

At least a win will make my facebook timeline easier to read. The amount of utter idiots that post on that Saints RLFC group is unreal!

I still see Wilkin laughing when he knocked on at the kick off.

Wilkin should also stay in the second row. Since he keeps stepping into the halves in the second half then I assume this is a coaching 'tactic' but all it's doing is undermining our attack. And there are times when he tries organising everyone but that's Walsh's job and tbh he's better at it.

Brown or whoever should play players in their positions, especially while we are depending on so many inexperienced players. It frustrated me last night because I could see how we just kept going left once Wilkin stepped in.

i dont think brown looked happy in the interview after the game!

I'm surprised you can tell! He pretty much always looks and sounds the same to me.

The second half spoiled the first half though. We still have a long way to go.

Wilkin could play like Ellery Hanley every game and still get negative comments on here.

He was excellent last night. He was brilliant in the first few weeks and that last night was back to that form. He's certainly not the only one to lose some form over the last few weeks but because of his perceived wage and desire to further himself when his career is over, people thing he's more bothered about other things than rugby. You won't find many players who try harder or care more for Saints but it doesn't suit the argument of most on here.

The attitude and commitment were miles better than in recent games but we still look like we're likely to ship points every time the opposition get on our line. If we want to avoid embarrassment in the play-offs that will need to be fixed.

spot on with that, never stood up at all and were outplayed in every department by a fairly average saints team who just ran hard and straight and passed and tackled better. simple basic rugby league that we just didn't seem to grasp.when we are that bad then most teams don't need to work hard to beat us, just do the basics and wait for us to self destruct.

It was clear that the line speed was much improved, particularly in the opening 20 mins but we clearly weren't able to keep that going for 80mins. Rome wasn't built in a day and it was a positive step forward after the last few weeks of dross.

Not scapegoating here, just an observation, when you watch Jordan Turner closely in defence, he loses the collision practically every time someone runs at him. When making a one-on-one front on, where you expect a player of his size to handle someone like Joe Wardle (who I rate highly), his first contact is poor and he gets pushed backwards at least a couple of meters by the ball carriers leg drive. Compare this with Tommy Makinson who put in a couple of big shots last night.

I know he may be struggling for a bit of confidence but for me, he was one player who didn't man up. I'm not sure he has the aggression levels required for what we need.

If I were an opposition coach, particularly the top sides, I'd be targeting him all game. You may not make a break, but you will certainly get 15m every carry.

what gets me is..we tackle alright in the middle of the field,but when it comes to defending our try line the tackling seems to go downhill????

All we can ask is the same commitment and line speed again for next week until we get our injured players back.
Salford are now desperate for a win so our players need to start big, get on the front foot and defend a bit better.

You know, Salford will view us as a very winnable game with an important scalp to get their season back on track.