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Quote: Shaft "The thought of this fills me with dread!'"


It may do, but were rapidly running out of options, especially if there's a need to drop players who are "only picking up their pay cheque"

Lms has to be pushed forward if walmsley is out, so who do you put in the back row? Wilkin soliola wellens? At least 2 of those players are woefully out of form, have been embroiled in whatever has gone wrong since cas and aren't offering a threat out wide. The other one is wellens whose about as dividing on here as it can get! Greenwood, like walmsley offers some great things, but he's never going to be the one to dictate the line speed, and get aggressive, which is what we need more than anything vs Huddersfield. Nor are any of them tackling machines, ready to take the work load off Roby. Of course, we can bring in Flanaghan, but what you gain in tackling you lose in attack (even against woefully out of form players!)

I've been crying out for an actual lock for some time as opposed a second row playing in the middle of the field, and long term I think Thompson could be that man, but it's all hands to the pump in the props in the immediate future so what do you do?

Of course this entire dilemma is avoided if charnock gets picked. I would be looking at a pack of:

Thompson Roby Masoe
Flanaghan Greenwood
Charnock/ Turner

Savelio Richards Wellens Walker

Which would at least start to root out whoever wellens was talking about (and say missing 6 tackles in a single game isn't acceptable)

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Lomax Swift Dawson Percival Makinson Lance Walsh
Masoe Roby Thompson Jones Flanaghan LMS

Sia Savelio Greenwood, Richards

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Quote: bewareshadows "Lomax Swift Dawson Percival Makinson Lance Walsh
Masoe Roby Thompson Jones Flanaghan LMS

Sia Savelio Greenwood, Richards'"


I'm sorry but LMS needs to be removed from the team and sent to cumbria. All the players need to realise that lack of effort WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and they all need a real rocket up their backsides, or at least be made to sit in a room and let the fans tell them how it is.

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Quote: Top Saint "I'm sorry but LMS needs to be removed from the team and sent to cumbria. All the players need to realise that lack of effort WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and they all need a real rocket up their backsides, or at least be made to sit in a room and let the fans tell them how it is.'"


Isn't that what twitter is there for?

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According to Wish FM on Twitter Lomax, Jones and Walmsley aren't fit for Friday.

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Quote: Motherwell Saint "According to Wish FM on Twitter Lomax, Jones and Walmsley aren't fit for Friday.'"

Friday's shaping up to be a fun evening

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Quote: Top Saint "I'm sorry but LMS needs to be removed from the team and sent to cumbria. All the players need to realise that lack of effort WILL NOT BE TOLERATED ANY LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and they all need a real rocket up their backsides, or at least be made to sit in a room and let the fans tell them how it is.'"



I would agree but with Walmsley also likely to be out, it's becoming a simple numbers game for those who can play prop.

I would not play any academy player at any cost. If we had one prop other than Masoe left, then sure I'd drop LMS, but at this point we are getting down to second rowers playing prop.

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Quote: Motherwell Saint "According to Wish FM on Twitter Lomax, Jones and Walmsley aren't fit for Friday.'"


Hohaia
Makinson Percival Dawson Swift/ Galbraith
Turner?/wheeler? Walsh
Thompson Roby Masoe
Flanaghan Greenwood
Charnock/ Turner

Savelio Richards Wellens Walker

So that's lomax, jones, (swift), wheeler, Amor, walmsley, laffranchi, ghostmont and Manu out, Wilkin, lms and soliola dropped

Edit: completely forgot about Wilkin ... Shows how much impact he had!

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Wellens Swift Dawson Percival Makinson Lance Walsh
Masoe Roby Thompson Jones Flanaghan LMS

Sia Savelio Greenwood, Richards

I would not shift the team around to have Wellens still playing 70 minutes on the bench.

His best position is FB, if Lomax is injured then this is the time I would have said pre-season that Wellens comes in to fill the gap.

Wellens must play FB.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Wellens must play FB.'"

If he does then we will lose all our attacking threat and we will just keep throwing passes to the left all night.

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Apparently three 'new' players are coming in on Friday.

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Quote: SaintsFan "If he does then we will lose all our attacking threat and we will just keep throwing passes to the left all night.'"



I don't subscribe to that for many reasons.

Plus the only other alternative is to disrupt Makinson from the Wing. And then play Wellens 10 mins on the bench and throw together some unknown wing centre partnership.

So to me moving one man to FB, is better than moving 3 and leaving Wellens on the bench regardless of if they play to the left all night.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I would agree but with Walmsley also likely to be out, it's becoming a simple numbers game for those who can play prop.

I would not play any academy player at any cost. If we had one prop other than Masoe left, then sure I'd drop LMS, but at this point we are getting down to second rowers playing prop.'"


But at this point any player playing with spirit and aggression would be better than that soft southern pudding. It's getting to the stage where winning the game is actually less important than the manner in which it is played. Pretty much all saints fans at the moment want to see Heart, Commitment, spirit, determination, and more basically, Effort. Play with those attributes and you will still win games (See DW stadium for details).

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Lomax,Walmsley & Jones all miss out this Friday with only Percival due back

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