I'd rather bring in the wannabe Match commentator from redvee

There are 3 points Id like to make here:

1) Saints simply cant afford to sack brown mid contract, unless he leaves by mutual consent, they will have to pay him the remainder of what they owe him and from all accounts, he is on a tidy sum and is (or close to being) the highest paid coach in Super League. If hes on say £200k a year, thats £300k that Big Mac will have to find in order to show him the door if he left now. If we had that kind of money floating around, we would have paid a transfer fee and signed a proper stand off at the begining of the season.

2) If Big Mac does get shut, the cold hard fact is that we will have had 3 coaches in the last 5-6 years that the players "dont respect" and as such, dont play with any effort. WHO DO THE PLAYERS WANT????? What type of coach is it they are actually looking for? It smacks of the old boys brigade and looking from the outside, it seems that unless your face fits with the senior players, you quickly lose the dressing room and you are on a hiding to nothing. What coach anywhere in the world would want to come into that kind of environment? Unless there is a wholesale clearout of these players and staff, we will be in the same never ending spiral.

3) If Brown left next week, who would we replace him with? There is hardly a barrel full of unemployed world class respected coaches waiting in the wings to coach Saints that fulfil our needs, and the needs of the players (see 2 above). We will almost certainly end up with Rushy again and then it will be a case of the team coaching the team. Is that what the players want? To be totally unaccountable to anyone other than themselves? Im sorry, but thats not professional sport. If you worked in a shop and hated your boss, would that mean that you would P1$$ all over the customer when they walked in the door? You would still be your best smiley smiley helpful self while you are on the clock. The same should apply to the players. It is the fans that pay their wages and they should want to provide the best customer experience possible. By simply not putting any effort into their performance just because they have no respect for their boss smacks of amateurism.

If Brown is staying it's time he started doing the job he is being paid to do. He needs to show some authority and put some professionalism into the players.

They lost 25-16 to Warrington in the final though!

If it's the players and this old boys brigade, why doesn't McManus get rid of them. The only people that can be in that group are Wellens and Wilkin from the playing side and Cunningham off the field. Sack all three today, pay them off.

If the old boys brigade are such a problem, why is nothing done? Why is Wello getting another contract?

People wanting Daniel Anderson are out of their minds. If anything, he under-achieved with the side he had. Never understood the love in with him at the time, and Paramatta still haven't recovered from him coaching them.

Exactly right.

Let's look at it another way.

We've had potter, Royce, rush and Brown all take charge in recent years and all have failed!

I know the squads have changed over them periods but not by much.

Could it be the players just ain't good enough?

Yep!

That's my way of thinking to. Maybe he could get that few extra % out of them but IMO you could put any coach in the world in charge of this team and wouldn't win anything.

I could name players IMHO ain't good enough but I know I'd get shot down.

Of todays team to 2006 there would only be Roby be good enough and he would only get a bench spot.

Yes your probably right. IMO the are players that have been praised so much this year that ain't all that great.