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40218_1286737075.jpg Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg |
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| Quote: Giantscorpio "He will play his butt off every game, but if things start going wrong he sort of loses interest, but if things are going ok he will carry on to the end and can be devastating when on song.'"
I guess it's a question of making hay while the Brough shines eh?
Well done on breaking the hoodoo by the way! I think you were the only team with a hoodoo left to break. Some impressive play from your team tonight.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Its hard not to agree, its like they have to rebiuld this partnership all over again thanks to Rush'"
I could have crowned him last season, and not in the royal sense of the word either.
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| Quote: Saddened! "The main problems I moaned about last season are still there...... '"
Very true the same donkeys were guilty again except for Flannery who has his best game in living memory not one tackle missed and had his usual game in attack!!!
Quote: Saddened! "Tonight exposed with brutal efficiency just how average our 1-7 are.'"
I have to say I thought it was our pack. Perry and Laffranchi are just not physical enough for starting props. We looked good in preseason with some of the big kids like Greenwood and Walmsley but we went back to a small, weak pack in the first game. Hard to understand.
Quote: Saddened! " Another aspect I mentioned once or twice last season was how we're lacking at fullback. Wello's not just over the hill, he's fallen down it into a ditch and his carcass is being chewed on by passing animals.'"
It may have been 3 or 4 but who is counting. Wello showed his true colours tonight even the most biased Wello fan couldn't defend him tonight. If Wello was my dog I would take him to the vets and get him put down. We are just making him suffer, he is never going to retire. We need to put him out of his misery while he still has some of his dignity left.
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "Very true the same donkeys were guilty again except for Flannery who has his best game in living memory not one tackle missed and had his usual game in attack!!!
I have to say I thought it was our pack. Perry and Laffranchi are just not physical enough for starting props. We looked good in preseason with some of the big kids like Greenwood and Walmsley but we went back to a small, weak pack in the first game. Hard to understand.
It may have been 3 or 4 but who is counting. Wello showed his true colours tonight even the most biased Wello fan couldn't defend him tonight. If Wello was my dog I would take him to the vets and get him put down. We are just making him suffer, he is never going to retire. We need to put him out of his misery while he still has some of his dignity left.'"
Wello put in more effort and commitment than the rest of them out together tonight, and if the rest cared half as much as he did, we would be a far better team. He was under so much pressure tonight it was ridiculous, and although he was poor, he was certainly not our worst out their tonight.
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| Quote: Tez the Saint "Wello put in more effort and commitment than the rest of them out together tonight, and if the rest cared half as much as he did, we would be a far better team.'"
I dont subscribe to that, if i played for Saints i'd put in all the effort and commitment but i'd still be rubbish, the difference is i know im past it and rubbish, Wello doesnt
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| Quote: Tez the Saint "Wello put in more effort and commitment than the rest of them out together tonight, and if the rest cared half as much as he did, we would be a far better team. He was under so much pressure tonight it was ridiculous, and although he was poor, he was certainly not our worst out their tonight.'"
Disagree. I don't think he put in any more or less effort than anyone else and he was just as rubbish as everyone else. He was a great last line of defence. How many tries did they score again? I don't think he was anywhere near the attackers for any of them was he?
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| We didn't have a leader on the park. This doesn't need to be the caprain but obvuously this helps. Its in reality someone who stands proud, rallies those around them and as necessary uses their last breath to make things happen. There was too many players left that field tis evening with fuel keft in the tank, each one of those could have been the leader. Every one of thise players with a breath left in theiir lungs should be thiroughly ashamed if themselves.
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| Quote: Legman "We didn't have a leader on the park. This doesn't need to be the caprain but obvuously this helps. Its in reality someone who stands proud, rallies those around them and as necessary uses their last breath to make things happen. There was too many players left that field tis evening with fuel keft in the tank, each one of those could have been the leader. Every one of thise players with a breath left in theiir lungs should be thiroughly ashamed if themselves.'"
Did I miss somethimg?
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| Fwiw Brough was outstanding all last season and was criminally overlooked for england
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| Quote: Code13 "Fwiw Brough was outstanding all last season and was criminally overlooked for england'"
but when you get Sinfield getting the golden boot there is no chance....
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Bring on the clowns - them were the days.: |
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| You have a problem with so called club 'greats' influencing far too much. They got rid of Millward and Simmons and Purtill. Get rid before it kills you.
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| Far too early for the predictable knee-jerking, gents. Huddersfield won their cup final and we were caught cold - it happens. It's going to take time for the halves to shake of the Rusht (did you see what I did there? ) and for the rest of our young backs to find their feet together, and time is something we have plenty of. As always I'll start getting a bit worried if we're still misfiring in June, not before.
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| I think the majority know it's just one game, but after having expectations so heavily dashed , there is bound to be as passionate a response from fans as there was a lack of physical effort from the players.
You don't fork out over £200 and then see that and think about what will happen in September, you worry that you have just burned up £200.
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| There was an element of complacency from the start and our forwards expected an easy game given what happened in the friendly. That is criminal for a professional team.
The half-backs were not the main problem, but they did not help matters with poor ball options time and time again. Lomax kept hitting that x ball when really he should be putting it out the back and giving our 3/4s more of a chance. Gaskell did not touch the ball in the first half except for when he was kicking.
Defence was appalling - not sure why after two solid defensive efforts in the friendlies. A lot of players were getting the basics wrong - i.e. grabbing and not using their shoulders, not moving up and meeting the ball carrier etc: BASICS
I'm not overly worried tbh, it was one game were everything that could have gone wrong did so. Give credit to the Giants, they played superb.
I really cannot see us playing the same way next week as the players need a good rollicking and hopefully they get one. It was a player issue tonight, rather than a coaching one.
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: Albion "There was an element of complacency from the start and our forwards expected an easy game given what happened in the friendly. That is criminal for a professional team.
The half-backs were not the main problem, but they did not help matters with poor ball options time and time again. Lomax kept hitting that x ball when really he should be putting it out the back and giving our 3/4s more of a chance. Gaskell did not touch the ball in the first half except for when he was kicking.
Defence was appalling - not sure why after two solid defensive efforts in the friendlies. A lot of players were getting the basics wrong - i.e. grabbing and not using their shoulders, not moving up and meeting the ball carrier etc
Did you notice are forwards was getting in at 1st receiver at times and ball handling ?
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