Ahhhh. Poor little babies.

how pathetic of them, they slaughter us year in year out, then have the cheek and audacity to have a little whinge to the referee to make sure hes watching out for it now!

well played tim sheens, seems a little ne wenger-esque if you ask me!

Ive corrected your typo.

lol, took me ages to find what you changed haha!

They're whining away about us lying on as well. Have I missed something here? Didn't we start lying on because that's what they started doing?

This is just typical Australia - its gamesmanship to get the referee on their side. Have a pop at some of our tactics, make out that they're innocent and the referee will look out for it. Watch us get heavily penalised now making things even harder for us.

Even harder? That's impossible, things could not have got even harder than they already are. I don't think it would affect the score much if they just decided to end the pitch at the half way line and play it entirely in our half, their half will be redundant apart from fielding kick offs.

I was once invited to an RU game (yes I know, but the booze was free) on a corprate jolly to see the North of England play the All Blacks. By half time they were out of sight and the snow started falling so the second half started with a pure white pitch. By the end of the game the pitch was still covered in totally virgin snow from 10 metres inside the All Black half all the way to their dead ball line. I know it's unlikely to snow in Melbourne but I think the same thing would happen if it did.

They have far better backs etc than we have out there in Aus. but our forwards are more than a match for them. If they can get our forward pack penalised then they can get their backs going and the points for them rolling in. If however our forwards had a field day so to speak then it will make it harder for the Aussies to operate like they want to. The solution for them is to whinge at the ref and get him on their side.

They aren't.

They may be able to front up for 50 minutes a game, but they can't for 80. You could see our pack struggling with the Kiwi pack last week when they decided to step it up for 10 minutes in each half.

Only players who play for Saints, Leeds and Wigan can play with that intensity for any length of time due to the number of high pressure matches they've played in during the play offs, and it shows.

I totally agree. Yes our pack can start off well and dominate for spells but they always lose out over the course of 80 mins against Australia because they run out of steam. Exactly the same happened last year in the 4 Nations final.

By the way I think Graham has been immense in the last 2 games and has easily been our best player so far.

so ben westwood, wasnt having a blinder whenever he was on the field today?? give me a break! there were no leeds players, anywhere near the starting line-up today, and it was a terrible side, so that to me says how good they are.

Best players on the field, again, today were Beeny Benny Westwood (WAR), Graham(STs) and Roby (STs).

If I was to pick a worst player it's probably be ... S. Tomkins (WIG). But that was probably the intention of the Aussies.

Back to the point both Bennies (WAR) and the St Helens two (Sts) were great. So I'd argue Saint Helens and Warrington have the big performers.

In all fairness, Tomkins was targeted which is why he was quiet. Worst player surely has to go to cudjoe? Although it may have not been his own fault, i don't know how comfortable he is playing centre but his position and decisions were poor. He didn't really offer anything in attack.

Now I know why they wanted Aussiee officials today!!!

After two blatant Aussie no tries actually being given by that total rectum Clark, Tasmin Archer then disallows lunt's effort on a ref's call, he then started giving us meaningless penalties in our own half after the 70 min mark, (when they are as useful as a chocolate teapot) to make the pen count look even.

Sheen's comments take the biscuit arguing that Archer was allowing US to lie on!

Yeah i thought of him like a min later. He had probably no positive effect on the game.