I do find it interesting reading the prejudices and preferred scape goats people have on this website.

For instance, in this case you have failed to make mention of the two catastrophic errors from Meli that lead to 2 Leeds tries (ok, so the second one was also followed by the offside-but-not-offside decision, but it was what gave them possession).

Meli is more to blame for you losing that game more than any referee....

the last try was dubious.... but theres plenty of arguements either way to it being given or dissallowed.

either way was a great spectacle

The thing is with Meli. He would not have had to deal with the kick had Eastmond not stupidly have a second attempt in Leeds own 20 when we had them rattled.

It also hurts that the guy does actually try his best for Saints. He constantly made yards all night with ball in hand, just like all season. Obviously it as cost us a try tonight (thats 3 teies gifted to leeds in 3 Grand Finals) but atleast he is good going forward. Ade Gardner is neither!

Nobody are scapegoats. Our team lost this game

Is that why Gardener came nearer to scoring than Meli?

There's a thread on Meli's mistakes if you look harder

Thought the game was very well contested and exciting up to that onside/offside call. What a shocker. Also thought the Brent Webb knees challenge was a dubious call. I felt that could have been a penalty try

Are you being serious ? The difference being that Ade had a walk in. Yet fu*ked up again. He got nearer to the car park than the line and that was before Webb put the knees in.

Eastmond's try was a clear knock-on and the most dubious decision of the game.

Credit to Saints for all their determination but they just weren't good enough when it come down to the crunch and I can only see things getting worse for them next season...

Agreed.We need a winger to replace Gardener-he couldn't beat an egg

Was the penalty the right call? I couldn't see either the incident or the screen but I got a few texts saying it was 'dodgy'. Not seen the offside either, but you could see from the body language that there wasn't a person in the entire ground who thought it was a try.

I would have been unhappy if the try had been given against us. However you got the 50:50s last week and in some previous Grand Finals. Also there was more than a suspicion of a knock on in Saints try.
Leeds kicking game was far superior tonight and that's really what won them the game.

How slow was Wellens for the 40 : 20?

Only one person thought it was a try, unfortunately for you it was the Video Ref. It was definately offside, what's the point of the Video Referee when he ignores what's in front of him.

I thought it was a try, it might have been marginally offside but the rail cam was slightly ahead of the play so it was actually quite hard to judge, but I though Eastmond's first try was a clear knock on (bounced off Donald's arm) so swings & round a bouts.

Being fair to Bentham you can't see where McGuire's foot makes contact with the ball and Smith COULD have been onside. IMO it was BOD at the best, but I do think he was offside. You were however behind at that time anyway so it didn't cost you the game as such (like had you been 11-10 p for example)