On the subject of hull kr, the Warrington and hull kr fans are having a good old punch up after the game so I'm told.

That's not according to reports by George Riley on Twitter. According to him it was Hull KR fans fighting among themselves. I tend to believe George Riley as I've seen them do that at Knowsley Road.

Possibly, just a txt of a mate said the is fighting and I just thought it be with wolves fans.

Can't see Saints troubling the silverware this season.

If you've come for a argument with that childish post then you'll be disappoint because most agree.

Neither can we, but no one could see anything but a Wire v Wigan final last year. Strange things happen in sport.

There are Wire fans in that end though.

Some do. Some don't. Others either have no alternative or don't offer it.

What I don't like is the way people with genuine grievances are ganged upon and lampooned as parochial throwbacks. It's divisive and counter-productive.

The fact you came on a saints forum and posted that comment IMO makes you childish.

Even ignoring the fact that more often than not we play with just 16 men, Simmons use of the bench is farcical at times and undermines my confidence in him and his tactical nous.

Before anyone starts, yes he has more coaching experience than me so of course it's all IMO.

He was surprised he brought laffranchci on 2 mins into the 2nd half which is is strange as all the players just had 15/20 mins rest.

The only thing I'd say about Laffranchi is he doesn't seem very big. Given that Royce seemingly brought him over as a direct replacement for Graham there's a significant tonnage disparity.

Perhaps he is trying to find out how long Laffranchi will last? That and TP was injured.

Laffranchi is industrious and does okay with the ball in his hands, but he does look a little lightweight defending close to the ruck. As you say, the loss of Graham has significantly thinned out our middle, and that's on top of the loss of Cunningham the previous year. Because of the outstanding form of Roby it has been fashionable to say that we haven't missed KC, but what tends to be overlooked is that having him in the side meant effectively having a third prop - and a world class one at that - defending at the ruck.

Hopefully Perry will get into shape soon, as we could really do with a bloke of his stature in the middle.