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| Quote The Chief="The Chief"A significant history of "minor incidents" that proves the point I made in my initial post. He has a reputation for being a cheap shot merchant and had he done something like Graham is alleged to have done, people would be less surprised. You can argue all you want, but that is a fact. The charge sheet is as long as his arm and there are plenty of instances where Leeds players have been found not guilty of offences when players from other clubs have been banned. That is precisely why Wane was spouting in the media last week, trying to apply some pressure to the RFL disciplinary.
Nice to see though that you gloss over the physical assault of a referee as some kind of minor high brow technical offence. Knock yourself out. 3 match ban for such an incident once again goes to show the RFL's lack of balls. We are all quick to criticise the Premier League but they handed out an 11 match ban to Paolo Di Canio for pushing a referee. So your point is what??? That Bailey only deserved a three match ban??
I fully expect Graham to receive a hefty ban if he is found guilty and quite rightly so. Its certainly not anything I would condone on a rugby pitch with my players, but then again, neither is pushing a referee, applying undue pressure to a joint or deliberately raising a knee in a tackle with the intention of smashing someones collar bone. Im glad you are not involved in the game as a coach for any of my children if you think that is somehow morally more acceptable.
The injured soldier was inspirational, but its nice to see that for the most part you spent your time at an RFL conference effectively. At least you got a free ticket to the game, whereas I actually got a VIP seat, a three course meal and a £5k cheque for my club. Not a bad reward for a 10 min presentation but I really couldnt give one if you want to keep dishing out childish jibes in an effort to make yourself somehow seem superior, its tedious, petty and irrelevant.
You can keep on wasting your time trying to big up Bailey, but Im done feeding the trolls.'"
Ryan Bailey match ban total = 6
James Graham match ban total = 12
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| Quote craigizzard="craigizzard"12 match ban. Unclear if internationals count.
Interesting to hear if there's any backtracking on here now all the evidence has been been fully judged.'"
None from me. It's a civil case and therefore is judged on the balance of probabilities rather than beyond reasonable doubt. The disciplinary committee have judged that on the balance of probabilities Jammer bit Slater's ear. The evidence is still inconclusive.
Given that this is a 12 match ban one thing is clear: the disciplinary committee wanted to make an example out of him. Previous bans for this have been 8 matches. |
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"None from me. It's a civil case and therefore is judged on the balance of probabilities rather than beyond reasonable doubt. The disciplinary committee have judged that on the balance of probabilities Jammer bit Slater's ear. The evidence is still inconclusive.
Given that this is a 12 match ban one thing is clear: the disciplinary committee wanted to make an example out of him. Previous bans for this have been 8 matches.'"
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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"Which previous bans for ear biting were those?'"
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So its 12 games -2 pre season games and possibly - the international games ( yet to be clarified ) it could be as little as 8 and even at 8 i think given the damage to Slater's ear its a bit harsh when you can eye gouge or jaw break and get less.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"None from me. It's a civil case and therefore is judged on the balance of probabilities rather than beyond reasonable doubt. The disciplinary committee have judged that on the balance of probabilities Jammer bit Slater's ear. The evidence is still inconclusive.
Given that this is a 12 match ban one thing is clear: the disciplinary committee wanted to make an example out of him. Previous bans for this have been 8 matches.'"
Previous bans for biting the arm not the face, also mitigated by showing contrition to the discipliary committee and an early guilty plea. Considering that case got 8 games, some would think Graham got off lightly.
There have been no similar cases to Graham's in recent memory.
I'm less than amazed that you haven't changed your mind, despite saying that you'd wait until the case was judged. Clearly that only applies if the considered judgement happens to back up your own prejudice. |
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| Quote brook40="brook40"William Zillman from gold coast got 8 games for a bite a couple of years ago.'"
Was it an ear bite?
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Thought not. |
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| Quote brook40="brook40"So its 12 games -2 pre season games and possibly - the international games ( yet to be clarified ) it could be as little as 8 and even at 8 i think given the damage to Slater's ear its a bit harsh when you can eye gouge or jaw break and get less.'"
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They aren't ear bites either. |
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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"Nope.
They aren't ear bites either.'"
Im not arguing the guilt,but whats worse a broken jaw,the possibilty of getting blinded or a small knick on the ear ? Yes he bit him and yes its a stupid act from someone who should know better,but at the end of the day the damage that was actually caused should be taken into account, |
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| Quote William Eve="William Eve"Nope.
They aren't ear bites either.'"
There is no special charge of ear biting and therefore it is irrelevant where the bite is. Blood is pumped everywhere in the body, just in case you didn't realise, so where infection from a bite enters the body doesn't matter, it's the risk of infection that is the issue here not the location of the bite.
As for the earlier request about NRL players and their bans for biting, [url=http://www.nrl.com/bulldogs-delay-grahams-nrl-hearing/tabid/10874/newsid/70142/default.aspxscroll down to the bottom of this article[/url and in actual fact it refers to the previous two players charged getting a combined ban of 12 weeks, so six each. |
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Banned because he's English. He was found guilty even before the hearing had been done.
He should leave the NRL and return home.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"There is no special charge of ear biting and therefore it is irrelevant where the bite is. Blood is pumped everywhere in the body, just in case you didn't realise, so where infection from a bite enters the body doesn't matter, it's the risk of infection that is the issue here not the location of the bite.'"
If you are going to suggest that the NRL made an example of Graham by handing out a 12 game ban, you need to cite comparative like-for-like evidence of lesser bans being handed down for exactly the same offence of ear biting. Can you cite that evidence? Yes or no?
Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"As for the earlier request about NRL players and their bans for biting, [url=http://www.nrl.com/bulldogs-delay-grahams-nrl-hearing/tabid/10874/newsid/70142/default.aspxscroll down to the bottom of this article[/url and in actual fact it refers to the previous two players charged getting a combined ban of 12 weeks, so six each.'"
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