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| Quote: redex113 "This made me laugh. I thought of Wellens flying through at the speed of sound.
Some people talk such cr*p.'"
I can just see fans like you, three games in saying he's not quick enough let's bring wello back.
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| Quote: redex113 "And which of today's wigins two young halves did Deacon bring on?????????'"
Obviously he's talking about when McGuire brought him to the club and funny enough was crowned champions
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "Neeeeee-----yoooowwwww......
That was the irony flying over your head by the way. Yes.'"
"There's very little wrong with our backline no matter what the knee-jerkers think".
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| Quote: Mugwump ""There's very little wrong with our backline no matter what the knee-jerkers think".'"
You rate our pack and also saying our backs are good, so what's the problem?
IMO the pack is to soft. Perry, flannery and wilkin ain't good enough, we lack power and aggression and no forwards break the line.
The back line offers nothing in attack, we are slow and lack idea in the halves.
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| Quote: Mugwump ""There's very little wrong with our backline no matter what the knee-jerkers think".'"
In the real world, not a fantasy land of the league of 15 years ago, compared to other sides in the league, given the very poor available level of talent in the game right now, our 3/4 line is more than capable of the job given decent coaching/tactics/supply and a return to form/fitness of a few current underperformers, and as good as or better than most other 3/4 lines in the league. In fact I'd say only Warrington's is significantly better. You're living in the land of Cloud Cuckoos if you believe otherwise.
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| just watching cat v wire, no problem going to the right there!
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2553.gif I've seen them bomb a quarter final, bottle a semi final, finish as league leaders, but I've still, never, seen the Wire win the league
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "our 3/4 line is more than capable of the job given decent coaching/tactics/supply and a return to form/fitness of a few current underperformers, and as good as or better than most other 3/4 lines in the league. In fact I'd say only Warrington's is significantly better. You're living in the land of Cloud Cuckoos if you believe otherwise.'"
you just get better and better! man for man wouldnt swap one player from our back lines. id have roby and TP from the pack but no backs!!!
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| Quote: pk "you just get better and better! man for man wouldnt swap one player from our back lines. id have roby and TP from the pack but no backs!!!'"
I'm very glad you don't want Makinson.
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45658_1356296105.jpg [color=#FF0000:1fnfdzuc]Wigan vs Leeds finals aggregate score.
Wigan 178 - 64 Leeds
Wigan wins - 6 Leeds wins - 0[/color:1fnfdzuc]
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubblegum.
Don't you struggle. Don't you fight. Don't you worry, cause it's your turn tonight!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I'm very glad you don't want Makinson.'"
I didn't like him feigning a facial injury after tackling Tomkins. Pretending to have been kicked in the face, writhing around holding his face. Only to jump to feet as soon as he realized a penalty wasn't forthcoming. Very cheap!
As Karl Lagerfeld say's " If you are cheap, nothing helps".
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "I didn't like him feigning a facial injury after tackling Tomkins. Pretending to have been kicked in the face, writhing around holding his face. Only to jump to feet as soon as he realized a penalty wasn't forthcoming. Very cheap!'"
I was close to that tackle. Tomkins did kick his face. And good on Makinson for trying to get a penalty. I'm all for that. Shows he's on the ball.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I'm very glad you don't want Makinson.'"
I rate Makinson highly.
As for your pack only Roby would get a chance in the starting six at Wigan, and even then I'm honestly not sure that I would start him ahead of Mickey Mac. Two games head to head this year and Mickey Mac has come out on top.
That's not a dismissal of Roby, but as I've said before with the players you have I would use Hohoia at 9, and Roby at 13, because that Saints pack is not good enough.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "As for your pack only Roby would get a chance in the starting six at Wigan, and even then I'm honestly not sure that I would start him ahead of Mickey Mac. Two games head to head this year and Mickey Mac has come out on top.'"
No he hasn't. Wigan won the games, but not because of McIllorum.
Because you won it's very, very easy to gloss over what was an appalling performance from Wigan. Had Saints come up with three out of nowhere tries (For example from kicks) and won that game, there would be an almighty post-mortem going on. I've never seen a side as indisciplined as this current-era Wigan side. They were terrible under Maguire and his regime seems to be wearing off and it's getting worse. The third or fourth man (Who almost always attacks the knee joint, something they really need to stop) goes in on the 'held' call so many times.
I'll bet you are glad you've not got Warrington or Huddersfield in the semi final.
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| Quote: LovesToSpooge "I didn't like him feigning a facial injury after tackling Tomkins. Pretending to have been kicked in the face, writhing around holding his face. Only to jump to feet as soon as he realized a penalty wasn't forthcoming. Very cheap!
As Karl Lagerfeld say's " If you are cheap, nothing helps".
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