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"Its Great Britain in the all-white strip with the red and blue V, the dark shorts and the dark stockings" Ray French (Legend):



We've lost a game by 2 points, another by 1 point both against gf pretenders and drawn a game. Had we took the 6 points from those we would sit top of the league. Granted we're not playing platinum rugby but who in the competition is?

Its form, its sport.

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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled. For 27 - 0 you get a trophy For 75 - 0 you get sod all. Wigan had eight in a row Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg



Quote: Mugwump "Give over, grandad. When Flanagan left Wigan to go to Wests you were hopping about in your zimmer telling everyone what a loss it was to the club and how well he was playing. Indeed, it was you who brought to our attention his first grade NRL game (I remember because I followed the link). Now, you might want to deny any or all of this but the fact remains that you said it. Stop being so tedious you fool.

And what?'"

So come on mouth. Where is my post re Flanagan?

However here is a classic from 2009.
Quote: Mugwump "Looking at Wigan's roster I'd say that - provided its developed properly (and there's little evidence that it will be at the moment) Wigan are a minimum of five years away from being serious trophy contenders.

Wayne Bennett himself couldn't shave down that figure.'"


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Quote: Rogues Gallery "So come on mouth. Where is my post re Flanagan?

However here is a classic from 2009.
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Quote: St pete "KP does do most of the talking while Royce takes back seat. Royce does have the last word but most of the talking is done by KP.'"







Am I right in thinking that KP was here before Daniel Anderson and when Anderson came he was shown the door, only to return when Daniel left.

If he is running the show now it's no wonder were in dire straits. He will never ever make a first team coach.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "So come on mouth. Where is my post re Flanagan?'"


Good grief, you expect me to trawl a few hundred thousand pages because I'm so [idesperate[/i to prove a heavyweight intellectual such as yourself wrong? If you can't accept what are the facts fine. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, grandad. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: redex113 "Be lucky to make the play offs if changes are not made.'"


Oh dear God...

We need to be playing well and beating good sides starting in August, not now - we need only to be ticking over at a fraction of our capabilies and avoiding serious injury at the moment and that's exactly what we're doing. We need to win another 10 or 11 league games over the rest of the season to have exactly the same run at becoming "champions" as anyone else does and would do that easily if [iI[/i'd been signed to replace Jammer up front given the strength of our squad compared to the appalling standards of most of the rest of the league. I've said it before - I'd be very worried indeed if we were winning and looking good every week at this stage of the season. If Wigan and Warrington and whoever else want to expend their energies fighting for a pointless top spot then let them. A loss to Hull in March? Meh. Who cares frankly?

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As much as I am enjoying your misery at the moment, I must say I will not be betting against you to be there or there abouts come the end of the season.

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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled. For 27 - 0 you get a trophy For 75 - 0 you get sod all. Wigan had eight in a row Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg



Quote: Mugwump "Good grief, you expect me to trawl a few hundred thousand pages because I'm so [idesperate[/i to prove a heavyweight intellectual such as yourself wrong? If you can't accept what are the facts fine. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, grandad.
It's quite easy. Use the search facility. Type in Rogues Gallery as the author, and Flanagan as the keyword.

However using "Mugwump" and "talking tripe" causes the computer to overload. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It's quite easy. Use the search facility. Type in Rogues Gallery as the author, and Flanagan as the keyword.

However using "Mugwump" and "talking tripe" causes the computer to overload.
Rogues I don't think you're really in a position to be doing this after you having repeated failed to respond to multiple requests to back-up your out-raged comments:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=521232

good for the goose and all that hey, you best leave this one alone I think.
Quote: Rogues Gallery "It's quite easy. Use the search facility. Type in Rogues Gallery as the author, and Flanagan as the keyword.

However using "Mugwump" and "talking tripe" causes the computer to overload.
Rogues I don't think you're really in a position to be doing this after you having repeated failed to respond to multiple requests to back-up your out-raged comments:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=521232

good for the goose and all that hey, you best leave this one alone I think.


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Quote: Paul Youane "Rogues I don't think you're really in a position to be doing this after you having repeated failed to respond to multiple requests to back-up your out-raged comments:


Did your mate from America not tell you what I said?

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So basicly Hull didn`t win it,it was Saints lost it?

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I have followed the LONDON CLUB since I was in my teensl even though born in St Helens and still live nearby and went to the first game at Fulham, also Big West Ham Supporter:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1649.jpg



Quote: Northampton_Saint " I'd be very worried indeed if we were winning and looking good every week at this stage of the season. If Wigan and Warrington and whoever else want to expend their energies fighting for a pointless top spot then let them. A loss to Hull in March? Meh. Who cares frankly?'"


Never seem to have heard this reasoning in past season's??? Hope some of the younger players do not read it, as they may take it as Gospel!

It is not a crisis and it when the team need your support more than ever, but bringing out rose tinted glasses is not the answer! something is not quite right with the team and most supporters know it.

I for one feel the League is what counts, a team who plays week in week out well deserves the highest honour like the Premiership in football, the competition at the end of the season is nothing but a money raising event and extends the season with a chance for those who did not play well! of course in my opinion!

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Quote: jaybs "Never seem to have heard this reasoning in past season's???'"


You've obviously never read my posts in seasons previous to this then. What a magnificent honour to finally be able to read them it must be for you!

Quote: jaybs "bringing out rose tinted glasses is not the answer!.... I for one feel the League is what counts, a team who plays week in week out well deserves the highest honour like the Premiership in football, the competition at the end of the season is nothing but a money raising event'"


Errrr..... Fancy reconciling those 2 statements there, buddy? Those glasses of yours are about the rosiest I've ever come across... It doesn't matter what you, I or anyone else thinks about the league vs. playoff system, the fact remains that the team that lucks out at O/T is the team that goes into the record books as "Champions". The poor saps who waste their time and energy on being the best side and finishing top of the league are no more than a footnote. I don't recall Eddie and Stevo gleefully proclaiming after each Leeds score: "A try for the Champions! Although they weren't really as we all know of course that Warrington were by far the best team and the true champions last season, and we all really recognise them as the real champions instead of Leeds who just lucked out really after all!" on many Sky games I've seen? I don't remember watching the 1000s of Warrington fans pogoing with delight on the flatpack terraces after going out in the playoff semi last season as they were already the real champions after all and who cares about an O/T appearance, right?

You can correct me if I'm wrong but I doubt I am....

Noone cares and it doesn't matter who finishes top anymore - deal with it. It makes me a sight angrier than it does you that this is the case believe you me (read any of my dozens of rants on the subject that you now have the delight of being able to discover), but it is the case. Saints need to grind out another dozen or so dodgy wins over the next 6 months and then everything resets to zero as far as the race for the "championship" is concerned. We look to have the squad of players and (hopefully) the coaching to beat anyone when it matters. It doesn't matter a hill of beans how we're performing now.

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No way are Eddie & Stevo ever going to knock what is in fact "The Sky Knockout Trophy" for the top 8 teams!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "It's quite easy. Use the search facility. Type in Rogues Gallery as the author, and Flanagan as the keyword.'"


And this would search archived threads we cull from the database to save server space how, grandad?

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