Pointless signing anyone due to all the things that could go wrong, why get out of bed in the morning? Some players grow admittedly but I genuinely think you can tell instantly when a player will be class. I remember watching scullys debut at Warrington and knowing the first time he took the ball up that he would be absolute class...same with Harris. Not putting savelio in scullys bracket but the boy clearly has something above most at his age.

I've heard that he wants to play back in Warrington. He respects St Helens as a club, but doesn't want to represent a sh@thole of a town.

Yeah, that'll be it definitely. He's got a tattoo of Golden Gates on his heart no doubt.

Look, if the guy wants to swap a seat at the top table of British RL for the cavernous pit of mediocrity that is our Cheshire neighbours then let him get on with it. More fool him and his mother in this instance. The lad's a talent but let's see how much of a talent he is in another 18 months stuck at that place. He'll probably end up playing half under the shambolic management that is Warrington.

Saints will move on and continue to win. Warrington don't know where their next championship is coming from. If the guy wants to forfeit what's good for his development in place of the cheap dollar, then on yer bike pal. Enjoy the RL wilderness.

Continue to win? We've not won much in recent years. One Grand Final win does not a dynasty make.

You and your faux outrage doesn't wash with me.

That one championship is more than Warrington have had in over fifty years of RL. If you're that d about Sav going, go follow Warrington and pray for a league championship. You can join the 3/4 generations of Warrington supporters that have been doing so for umpteen years.

Going to the NRL or Wigan and Leeds, I can get. Joining Warrington......completely nonsensical. Chasing the money. He'd have been as well signing for Salford; probably got paid more as well.

4 trophies in 5 years or one trophy in 7 (thanks to Ben Flower). Savelio knows the score. He knows the future is positive with Wire. The Golden Gates tatoo isn't so bad if you compare it to the zenith of potential St Helen's tattoos- the Asda entrance framework, the circular concrete ascent to the concrete carpark leading to f all. A tattoo of the new Tesco carpark. A tattoo of Aldi.

Chim Chimeny, Chim Chim Charoo
St Helens has a chimney, and f@@k all to do
Chim Chimeny, Chim Chim Charoo
Let's improve the place, and all have a poo

Putting rivalry to one side, you've got to respect Warrington as a club. They are a big club with a decent history. They've won a few challenge cups in last few years and been close to winning a grand final. That's my problem with a player of Savelio's obvious potential, going to a club like that. They're a dangerous team and Savelio will strengthen them even more.

Before we won league in 96, we hadn't won league or (Challenge) cup since the 70's. Signing Newlove was a statement and I believe he was the catalyst for the start of our SL success.

We need a mouthwatering signing for next season now to show our intent for success.

Scott Gibbs as well, was a great signing in the centres. I can't remember whether they played at the same time, but they played in a similar era. Newlove was a fantastic player. Big and fast with a step, signed from Featherstone as I can recall. Saints were always able to sign some big players. Wire were similar at that time with Bateman, Ellis and Rowland Philips from the welsh RU squad, but you seemed to push on more mid 90s into the start of the sl era.

No way frodsham or Clough was going to be anything more than average players at best. People was ranting clough was the next jammer lol

I got bagged on here when I said our "golden generation" as they was being called of the likes of lomax, tyrer, foster, ashurst, Dixon etc would be playing in the lower leagues or salford and I was right (I got the Lomax one wrong).

I'm not the sort to be carried away when young players break thru and I believe I have a eye for talent and I knew Eastmond, percy and Sav will be top players or even workdclass.

The is no way around it that sav will be a loss for now and a massive loss when he matures into the player HE will become.

Can,t say I,m overly dissapointed with Sav going elsewhere as he,s still 1 or 2 seasons away from reaching his potentional, for his career I would have thought it would have been better for his development to go to the NRL where the coaching set up is more professional. As for Wire I,m not sure if they can accelarate his potential under Smith and Agar, also Sav has lost that safety net from experienced players around him.


Wish him all the best but as as already mentioned not devastated with his decision, now if it was Walmsley, Percival or Greenwood that would be a different matter.

Your modesty holds no bounds, eh ?

Nobody ever in my experience hailed Clough as anywhere near Graham. Equally, Gaz Frodsham was incredibly highly rated, both within the club and the game. As with all kids, the ultimate test is at first team level; some sink, some swim and on many occasions, it's the ones you expect to sink that swim fastest and furthest. All youth sports coaches know and acknowledge that it is never an exact science.

Implying that you have some kind of ability in talent spotting by telling us you rated Eastmond, Percival and Savelio is akin to telling us you're great with colours because you reckon the sky's blue. All of three of those have been rated enormously for much of their youth; all three had major competition for their signature and have been spoken of throughout their development.

I don't recall this 'golden generation' you speak of. Ashurst, Dixon, Tyrer etc were all considered hard working lads that could have a career. The real starlets were considered Eastmond and Magennis.

So, please, quit putting yourself on some pedestal when you'd be as well telling us what religion the Pope represents.

You wouldn't recall it as you only joined here last year so pretty poor post their mate. People on here was posting that we don't need to replace Lyon as we got Tyrer, we don't need to replace joynt as we have ashurst etc

We played Cas home and played about 8 kids and we hammerd them and then the usual posters was banging on about the "golden generation" but you wouldn't know as only joined last year so get back in your box.

There is no point saying fans should not have a go at a player if they feel there is a lack of loyalty.

Part of sport has always been cheering your own and booing those who are not.

CLubs sell loyalty and passion as part of their marketing. Sport is psychological as well as physical.

So if he is moving to Warrington, he's going to get it off the fans. There are no two ways about it. Either you want fans to partake in the game and show passion and turn up, or you want sport to be played in an empty stadia with just a TV audience to take the emotion and passion away.

Take Gary Connelly, he got it in the neck for years and years off Saints fans. We can't go out there and tackle the players, but we can do our best to knock their confidence.

You may not like it and feel everyone should be professional about it, but even players give each other verbals on the field. You play for money but the people paying the wages have the right to express themselves too.