And a bigger one between 7,6 and 1.


Leave him at FB. It's not just his attack, although that attracts the eye. But his ordering of the defensive line is pretty good to from FB.

Just to stick my two penn'orth in, Lomax would make a good running stand off (like he was all his amateur career) with an organising scrum half inside him. He supports well and hits the line at pace ( just like McGuire at leeds ). Let others do the organizing and Lomax would cause havoc up the middle supporting the offloads.

But!!!!!

What a revelation he has been at fullback. The team as a whole benefits from his support play out wide in attack, and he's not too shabby in defense either.

If we had another class fullback then he could do a job at standoff with the above provisos. I personally don't think we have, so we have to play him fullback for the benefit of the team.

No one expects the Dagenham Girl Pipers...................

Jeez, you really have it in for Makinson don't you?

Here are some stats for you. They're only stats, obviously, but they are the only facts we have to hand.

Stats for Lomax in the Warrington game:

Tries - 0
Assists - 2
Tackles - 5
Marker Tackles - 0
Missed Tackles - 0
Busts - 2
Carries - 17
Metres - 104
Average Gain - 6.1
Breaks - 0
Errors - 0
Offloads - 1
Penalties - 0

Stats for Makinson in the Dragons game:

Tries - 0
Assists - 0
Tackles - 4
Marker Tackles - 0
Missed Tackles - 0
Busts - 3
Carries - 19
Metres - 151
Average Gain - 8
Breaks - 1
Errors - 1
Offloads - 0
Penalties - 0

In the game against Wigan, which I think was his first complete game at fullback this season, Makinson made 142 metres, scored a try, made 7 tackles and one assist (although he did miss 3 tackles and made one error).

So is Lomax really our only class fullback?

Go one then. Expand ...

The break Makinson made against the Dragons was superb and might have resulted in a try had Makinson not been stopped illegally, thus providing an opportunity for the Dragons to get their defences in order.

People are happily accepting everyone else's stats as legit. Why the resistence to Makinson's?

Makinson is a decent fullback. I've been banging on about him playing fullback for years. I don't think he's quite as dangerous with the ball as Lomax is, but he's clearly a hell of a lot better than Wello. We have far bigger issues that whether Mako or J-Lo play fullback.

completely agree, either at fullback isnt terrible, i just think J-Lo is a bigger attacking threat

He is. More evasive and more of a ball player.

I've nothing against tommy, he's a decent player, I was showing how stats can be misleading at times.

If a player makes the same amounts of tackles but one player makes 3 try saving tackles then that stands out more.

Get what I mean ?

I get what you mean but exactly the same principle applies to Lomax's stats, or indeed anyone else's.

Haha I was only using that as a example to how stats can be misleading.

A full back shouldn't have to make any tackles. Every time it does it will be because of a failing of the defensive line.

Stats are very useful, but should never be used as 100% of your theory. They should be used to complement what we see with our own eyes.

Makinson is a good fullback - probably a better full back than a winger, but Lomax was a revelation with only a 4 game run there.