So what, you're holding a 20 year old grudge?

You ever thought it is time to grow up?

What is your problem,unless you have experienced it first hand don't judge me.
Just curious to know have you.

I lived down south for years. You put two and two together.

You are a patronising bugger I know that much.
You never answered the question.

Sale won't go to Saints. In fact, it probably doesn'tmatter where they go, but it'll be somewhere around south Manchester or Cheshire- just a focal point for fans to go to. Someone mentioned Altrincham- people in Alty are football, not rugby of either code. I used to live in Sale and there's not a great deal of interest there now that they play in Stockport.

As soon as the armistice was signed, the Vichy regime launched the 'National Revolution', a purge of Jews, Freemasons and Communists. Jews were subject to harsher restrictions than any other occupied nation in Western Europe in the unoccupied zone.

The PM, Laval, authorised the forcible sending of thousands of French people to work as semi-slaves in German factories.

Openly Nazi figures such as Marcel Deat, Joseph Darnand, Philippe Henriot, and Jacques Doriot all held positions of power after 1943.

Petain and Laval encouraged the creation of a French Waffen SS unit.

So yep, they were not all Nazis- they were a mix of opportunists, French traditionalists, and actual Nazis.

If you're going to climb into bed with a group, you're bound to get a few.

But it is scary to think that that is what could possibly have happened with Britain had Hitler's hand not been forced East earlier than planned.

Very true. But I do recommend reading Petain's biography- he'd been consorting with European Nazis for years before the War, fairly quietly (sorry, hobbyhorse of mine!)

Rumour has it that David Lloyd George was going to be made PM if Hitler invaded.

Anyway, back to the Sale point- if they do go somewhere, it'll be Salford.

Will look that one up!

Bit of off the point backtracking done there from your Vichy stand. Admittedly with some skill!!

The assertion was they were all Nazi's. I made the point they weren't.

The truth lies somewhere in between.

Hmmm. I'm not sure you are right there

after all you said in respect of the Vichy govenment:



but its a bit of a stub arguement best left for Wiki editors to debate me thinks!!!