He did, I've nothing against this if that's how they do things and if it works. I was just commenting on a post who mentioned this.

I'd prefer the head coach to do the talking myself but if it works then so be it.

I agree, the players should shoulder the blame but when a team is playing like we are then the the coach takes the ultimate blame.

Sometimes things just don't work out and the need for change is required and IMO the only way we can rescue thus season is by chance.

We can't exactly sack the players so as in all sports it's the coach that makes way.

The bulk of the issues stem from the coach though. The team look badly coached, badly prepared and barely motivated. The signings he has made don't cover the areas we really need and his constant chopping and changing of players and the positions they inhabit is also causing - IMHO - confusing, panic and stress, which is leading to a lack of confidence and could potentially stunt the development of the likes of Foster, Makinson, Lomax and the T-100 exo-skeleton.

We have a good enough squad, with enough talent and experience to be performing much better than we currently are. The blame, is squarely on the coaching team, as this club looks about as far from prepared as I have ever seen.

We still had plenty of time and territory tonight. But when this team are in the opposition's 20, they aren't under any pressure at all. We've got no moves at all and that is, surely, the fault of the coaching staff? I've skipped through the game on Sky+ and our 'red zone' play is just awful. Hohaia making nothing runs and wasting tackles, balls needlessly and half heartedly spread wide with no intent or speed, nothing kicks with no one in the line aware of the planned move. A decent coach could sort those things out and give us direction and a game plan.

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We do look a poorly coached team and we did last year.

Your forwards seemed to start well tonight, they were well on top and making some good meters early on. They then seemed to fade, not sure is this was fatigue or just laziness.

Laziness. They did much more work last year when we were carrying loads of youngsters. But then we had Jammer last year to kick their backsides.

It sounds cliche but he really did lead by example, miss seeing him play, was nice to see a forward turning games for a change.

Give it a rest you crying lunkhead before my eyes bleed. Whatever Hohaia is or isn't cannot be determined within a handful of games (where he has already played several positions). It's theatrical whiners like you who would have had Willie Talau run out of the team before he ever managed to show some form. Lyon too, probably.

Someone save us from Saints fans who make pie-eaters look like rational beings.

You can't actually fault anything I've posted though can you?

What Hohaia is could be determined by anyone who has watched him during his career. He's a willing player who's diminutive size makes him a worry amongst tired players or close to the line. He's been a utility player throughout his career, he's no halfback and was signed as one. I'm right on Hohaia, Jon Wells picked up on how poor his work at hooker is on the Sky coverage too, but I suppose he's a crying lunkhead too?

At least you think all is going well.

I'm not buying all this crap that we will be there at the business end of the season and look at Leeds last year. We look crap, utter crap!

You're playing the man, not the ball, Muggers.

I don't post much these days, but that performance got me out of my bath-chair. It was unacceptably bad. In fact, it was terrible. There's a very good chance we're looking at a run of 8 games without a win. While I could swallow 3 losses to Wigan, Wire and Leeds, the Saints squad is better on paper than Hull, Hull KR, Catalans and certainly Bradford. In fact, on paper, we're better than Huddersfield, but on the pitch they are light years ahead.

That was awful stuff. Amateur in places. Forwards who couldn't get past the PTB, half-backs who couldn't deliver a pass to a running threequarter, and threequarters who - on the rare occasions they got the ball - had all the penetration of an impotent panda. Awful. Awful.

Something needs to change, fast, or this will be our equivalent of the season the pies had to cheat to avoid relegation. I don't care if it's firing the coach or whipping some players, but something has to change. I'm all booked up to bring the family up for the game against Wigan, and after tonight, I'm a bit unsure as to whetehr I can bear to put myself through watching us get hammered by 40 points.

Exactly !remember what was being said about MacDermott and Leeds last season

Just seen this thread and I had a little chuckle to myself.

Cast your minds back to this time last year and my team Leeds were in a very similar position and look what happened. Its a blip and it'll turn around. You'll get nowhere if you kick the coach out now.