Here, here. Entertainment is definitely more important than winning/losing to some fans, including me. However come the play offs I know we'd all take a win at any price in every match with a flukey drop goal from a prop forward in the 80th minute after a dire 'five drives and a kick' type performance. But let's be real there is no way that five drives and a kick is going to get us over the line in the play off matches. Over to you Mick, what have you got for us???

I was told by someone who works at another super league club that potter will be leaving at the of the year.

He said potter told sir mac that he's happy to leave at the end of the year.

He also said saints have lined a coach from the storm in the NRL.

I'm not sure if it's already been posted on here or how true it is but I'd like potter to stay and prove how good of a coach he is.

he's already proved it. What ever you guys think has happened this season isn't purely at potters feet. As always though, its easier to replace 1 coach rather than 20+ players

The challenges of getting a lower to mid table side to punch above their weight are different to those of coaching a top side though.

Think Allardyce v Ferguson in football.

Potter is undoubtedly a good coach, just [imaybe[/i not the right one.

i do see your point.

However Potter is in is first season with a squad has just taken over. A squad that wasn't his, hasn't had time to groom and arguably a squad in the decline.

Good leadership starts in the dressing room and is rounded up by the coach.

Having said that you finished 2nd and will likely make another GF. Don't see how he did much worse than Anderson.

Agreed, which is why I won't be brandishing a 'Potter Out' banner just now.

I realise that to non Saints fans, finishing 2nd in the table to Leeds and reaching a CC semi to be beaten by a fantastic performance on the day by Hudds isn't a season to be ashamed of (in fact, every team bar Leeds and arguably Wire would take it), but for Saints fans the real worry lies in the performance of the team rather than results.

We have been dull, predictable and scrappy for the majority of the season - some fans could live with that if it resulted in trophies (there were times under Anderson where we played simple percentage rugby rather than the off the cuff stuff we're reknowned for, and he's considered as some kind of demi-god by some speccies), but it looks unlikely to do so this time.

Potter has a season under his belt, and a full close season now to really make his mark. Next season, we'll see.

That says more about the standard of the league than anything else.

The simple fact is that he isn't on thin ice. Potter and McManus know this job wouldn't be achieved in one season and McManus isn't going to make knee-jerk decisions just become some fans have set their expectations too high.

It's going to take Saints a few years to gel the new squad together and to get them back playing the 'Saints way'. Until then it's going to be sloppy, untidy, frustrating and occasionally great, but that is the way of sporting legacies. As one breaks down another has to be built. Note the word built there. We're not Warrington, we cannot just start buying a team wholesale. We have to blood the kids and start them playing safe, sensible football as we did with Clough and Graham and to an extent Eastmond.

Whether the fans like this or not, this is the way it is and will be until the kids are bedded in and then we can revert to the way we know we can play.

Indeed. It was interesting to watch the Reserves or Academy, which ever it was, tear Leeds apart with excellent rugby league and hearing people say "The first team used to do that" and "Get these lads in later."

The simplicity of it is, there is a "Saints Way." The kids know they can do it, but they need to learn when it is right to in Super League. It is a MASSIVE step up.

Time is a great thing, just seems many of our fans have headed down the Wigoon impatience route.

Dream on.
Lets hope you are right Ski because tonight was friggin awful again (thank god we were not playing leeds).

I REALLY hope you are right.

Thought our defense was awsome but our attack and mistakes were poor.
We failed to put away a realy poor team tonight which concerns me (hudds were absolute s*te).
Longy looks like like no-one wants to play with him anymore and Pryce did his usual disappearing act after his try.

Our line speed was good but apart from that we were not good IMO

It was a poor game to watch.

Go and watch the Wire as your so proud to live there.........It was a tough play off game, and we are struggling with form. Get over it!!

Pryce was very good in defence during the second half because that is what the second half was all about. In fact, I'd say the whole match was attack in defence. We played to close Hudds down, using their own game against them but in the right way this time (instead of trying to play up the middle). I think our attack this week while still not right was not clueless or confused as it has been for bloody yonks. It just looked like the finishing needed attention. Get that back and we should be in with a shout. Oh, and Longy really does need to watch where he is standing. He's done this offside/obstruction thing a couple of times since he returned.

I enjoyed the match tonight and was ho from chanting, shouting support and singing. It was good to see us compete again and show enthusiasm. And our defence was fantastic. We were all over them from start to finish, which is cruelly giving me hope, again.

Who said I was proud to live in direland?
How innane are you?

Get over the fact we don't all live within the Borough boundries.

Do you think its fun to be hated by all your neighbours for supporting Saints?