"Son, lad or muppet" as you have called me (without any insults from me) wishes you would stay with the cherry and s*ite forum.

You desribe yourself wonderfully in your c*appy posts.

Yawn

Sorry but I don't agree, JC when fit was very very good for us.

If SL lasts 2 more years I will be very suprised.

Gilly is a good second row forward, but with Soliola coming over to play at centre and already having Wilkin, TP, Flannery, Moore/Roby/KC (as i believe one of these 3 will play at 13 next seasn) we have 4 players playing for 3 spots, add to that Ashurst, Dixon, Clough, this then in reality is 7 players playing for 3 spots. Therefore someone has to go and unfortunatley it is Gilly on this occasion.

fair play you are entitled to your opinion, but i have to ask why you were not a fan of his?

No problem with what you say but don't agree and I think we will see Gilly doing well next year and SL can only improve HFC can't he?

I have to question your judgement of players, not a fan of Cayless and thinking 2 players who in truth are a shadow of there former selves, are worth 2 year deals at a club with trophy winning ambitions?!

Just thought he ended up unreliable, unable to read the team around him way past his best etc - not unlike IMO Paul Rauhihi at Dire.

Neither good enough to make the NZ squad anymore etc etc,

Glad to have an insult free conversation with you!

Sorry? Cayless is retiring so not a shadow of his formewr self?

Who has been more instumental in Saints sucess over the last couple of years? Cayless or SL / Gilly?
It's got to be the latter two as JC wasn;t playing most of the time!

but you said you were never a fan of his, pointing out you never rated him which once again leads me to question your judgement of a player.

I don't think so no, he is to unreliable. His passing is woeful and his kicking game has gone downhill over the last 12 months. Personally I think this is more down to age and the fact he has had a lot of injuries rather than being down to the skills of SL (although in all fairness his passing has never been a strong point).

He has been a great player for Saints but I think the board where right not to offer him another 2 years.

For what its worth, I was never a fan of JC but he became ever more unreliable.
I can't see any inconsistencies in this.
You obviously have the right to disagreee my judgement but it then just becomes a stale arguement.
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Then you watched his first couple of seasons with your eyes closed or you're just a bit daft.

You just can't resist descending into insults can you?

Are you a member of UKIP or the BNP or something? This would explain your intolerance of any other opinion than your own.