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That photo, to me, looks to be taken immediately after contact which is why O'Briens head is angled backwards (after contact in the back). No doubt it was a dangerous/illegal tackle but, in my limited opinion, it was not a shoulder charge to the head and the damage to the player occurred when his head bounced off the floor
Hope he's back soon for you guys though, you need all the HB help you can get at the moment
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Take a look at the Gardner decision: www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?4355
'Dangerous shoulder charge' - is this not dangerous? I think it was.
The RFL are basically allowing forwards to take out smaller ball players with this decision. I thought at the match it was a cowardly tackle and seeing the replay it looked that way, 100%.
If Wigan fans are ok with their players using such tactics, then fair enough. But you were all moaning about Blake green being taken out when he took the ball to the line in the Hull KR game. |
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Take a look at the Gardner decision: www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/disciplinary/item?4355
'Dangerous shoulder charge' - is this not dangerous? I think it was.
The RFL are basically allowing forwards to take out smaller ball players with this decision. I thought at the match it was a cowardly tackle and seeing the replay it looked that way, 100%.
If Wigan fans are ok with their players using such tactics, then fair enough. But you were all moaning about Blake green being taken out when he took the ball to the line in the Hull KR game. | |
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| Quote: Albion "Take a look at the Gardner decisionNo doubt it was a dangerous/illegal tackle'"
For me it was a 1 game ban and hes been lucky to have been let off |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Quote: Albion "Take a look at the Gardner decision'"
Yes we were, but can you not see the differences.
1) We never got a penalty.
2) It wasn't put on report.
3) When the review committee looked at the incident, the HKR player (Cory Paterson) was brought up before the disciplinary and given a four match ban. |
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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Yes we were, but can you not see the differences.
1) We never got a penalty.
2) It wasn't put on report.
3) When the review committee looked at the incident, the HKR player (Cory Paterson) was brought up before the disciplinary and given a four match ban.'"
You forgot the biggest difference, he plays for Wigan. Terry Newton got away with dirty late tackles for years and the disciplinary just ignored it when others seemed to get pulled up over little to nothing. The Judiciary are as poor and inconsistent as the referee's
Not the first time it's been questioned either m.rlfans.com/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 6&start=15 |
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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Yes we were, but can you not see the differences.
1) We never got a penalty.
2) It wasn't put on report.
3) When the review committee looked at the incident, the HKR player (Cory Paterson) was brought up before the disciplinary and given a four match ban.'"
You forgot the biggest difference, he plays for Wigan. Terry Newton got away with dirty late tackles for years and the disciplinary just ignored it when others seemed to get pulled up over little to nothing. The Judiciary are as poor and inconsistent as the referee's
Not the first time it's been questioned either m.rlfans.com/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 6&start=15 | |
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For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Quote: No1 Saint "You forgot the biggest difference, he plays for Wigan. Terry Newton got away with dirty late tackles for years and the disciplinary just ignored it when others seemed to get pulled up over little to nothing. The Judiciary are as poor and inconsistent as the referee's
Not the first time it's been questioned either
So, the referees are wrong, the review panels are wrong and the disciplinary panel are wrong?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "So, the referees are wrong, the review panels are wrong and the disciplinary panel are wrong?'"
Sometimes yes. Inconsistent may be a better term.
Did they get the pie eaters off the panel or are they still there dazzling us with there impartiality?? I remember the Kung fu Aspinwall incident mentioned in that well - another example of either staggering bias or stupidity |
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| Quote: EHW "the tackle wasnt completed. Had Tomkins played the ball, he would have been penalised anyway for playing the ball before he was tackled.'"
The tackle seemed complete to me. You can see that Walmsley never lets go of Logan's shirt. Wouldn't you agree?
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "The tackle seemed complete to me. You can see that Walmsley never lets go of Logan's shirt. Wouldn't you agree?
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Tackle wasn't complete simple as.
In any event it is a bit much comparing that with Taylor's illegal "tackle". Even the ape brought him off just after or was that just a co-incidence. |
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[quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: saint at wire "Tackle wasn't complete simple as.
In any event it is a bit much comparing that with Taylor's illegal "tackle". Even the ape brought him off just after or was that just a co-incidence.'"
Why do you think the tackle wasn't complete?
"When tackled: 2. A player in possession is tackled:
Grounded (a) when he is held by one or more opposing players and the ball or the hand or arm holding the ball comes into contact with the ground." |
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Whilst the tackle was technically complete, I can see why a player on the pitch would not presume it to be so, and why a ref would give leeway if he saw it at all. A different angle and you don't see the player being held.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Whilst the tackle was technically complete, I can see why a player on the pitch would not presume it to be so, and why a ref would give leeway if he saw it at all. A different angle and you don't see the player being held.'"
Agreed. Not quite comparable with cleaning up a player from behind who doesn't have the ball,imo. |
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[quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Agreed. Not quite comparable with cleaning up a player from behind who doesn't have the ball,imo.'"
The point being that Logan Tomkins was in a vulnerable position and Wello dropped on his back. Hitting someone in the back when they are not expecting it is never good really is it? |
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "The point being that Logan Tomkins was in a vulnerable position and Wello dropped on his back. Hitting someone in the back when they are not expecting it is never good really is it?'"
I don't think you've got the best argument there, squire. |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I don't think you've got the best argument there, squire.'"
Which bit? |
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