You are right, it isn't perfect at the moment, the first team isn't made up of many of our youth team products. Hopefully now that the other aspects of the club seen to be heading in the right direction, the youth production line will also improve.


As for the salary cap, I'm bored of hearing supporters of other clubs banging on about our finances, when the truth is that none of us know. It is especially boring when the allegations come from fans of those clubs that have breached the rules in the past.

He's not going to come out and say "Nah, we're only spending £1.1m mate, we're spending the rest on the furniture for my office in the new ground" are they?

The fans might revolt.

Just to clarify: Warrington players who have actually played first grade don't count whilst Saints players who haven't played first grade do count. An interesting concept and one that I may suggest tends to sway the stats in your favour.

thanks im ready for bed now,grow up.

Oh dear

They are all played first team rugby for Wire.

Another thing that doesn't really work is this thinking that just because they come from the U17s or whatever to the first team that even though players are very good they won't be on top money.

Maybe someone forgot to tell Melbourne Storm's players that came through the set up and from the Norths Devils that they shouldn't be earning top wage.

Isn't that hobby horse worn out yet Rogues? Anyway, when will Wigan be playing their first game at [itheir [/iground.

Could it be beyond the realm of possibility that these 2 players joined us for maybe a fraction more of what they were on at their previous clubs but saw a chance to challenge for medals, trophies etc???

What i find laughable is the fact nobody cares about us as stated earlier but there are plenty of Saints fans on here who are getting very hot under the collar at this topic, if we were scraping the top 8 this discussion would not be happening

Just saw Lee Briers at the lights in his Lamborghini and he said there's no way they're over, then I saw Morley on Carr Mill Dam on his speedboat and he said the same.

I don't think anyone is saying top players aren't on top money if they've come through the ranks, but they do tend to be cheaper than bought in talent at the top of their game. In our squad only a few will be on top money, the likes of Cunningham and Wellens are in the twilight of their careers and have signed reduced contracts, the likes of Eastmond and other youngsters are on the way up and aren't yet on their biggest deals. I reckon Eastmond is on less than Myler, and Morley is on more than Cunningham, for example.

As for the discussion on Warrington's youth system, it's obvious that they are only just starting to develop it, isn't it only a year or two ago they had no U18s or something similar (I seem to remember that we stuffed them in a game and their coach stated there was a major age difference)? It takes years to develop a youth system, we are only just really getting a number of good youngsters through. I don't see what the problem is, at least they are starting to do it.

They even paid for 2 young Wales lads to move to Warrington from Wales. Setting up their family with good money (Rhys and Ben Evans).

Hows that different to us signing Eastmond from Oldham?

Or Charnock, Galbraith etc