Not sure, but the first time Rogues went on tour a chap named Cook was the Captain, (of the ship)

Most of our under 20's though are either on standby for first team duties or are playing for first team. Wigan are still in 9th place in the under 18's though.
If you look on the official Saints site they have a league table which shows Saints top and Wigan 9th.

They have a "star"(expensive) Antipodean playing in the u 20's by the name of Amos Roberts!

The Saints u 18's are a very good crop of youngsters & most of them are only 17 & most of them are signed up. They are touring Australia in Oct/Nov. The majority of the team have come through from Portico u 16's & were National Champions last year, being coached by one Bernard Dwyer.

Get him back at Saints. lol

Quote: Agent Mulder "Most of our under 20's though are either on standby for first team duties or are playing for first team. Wigan are still in 9th place in the under 18's though. I've just looked in the League Express, the League Weekly and the RFL site. www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/league_tables and there are no tables published for the U18's Now if Saints want to make an U18 table, then good for them. But here's a question. Why didn't they do one for the U15's and U16's. And guess which match reports they conveniently forgot to report at those levels?

Quote: Agent Mulder "Most of our under 20's though are either on standby for first team duties or are playing for first team. Wigan are still in 9th place in the under 18's though. I've just looked in the League Express, the League Weekly and the RFL site. www.therfl.co.uk/matchday/league_tables and there are no tables published for the U18's Now if Saints want to make an U18 table, then good for them. But here's a question. Why didn't they do one for the U15's and U16's. And guess which match reports they conveniently forgot to report at those levels?

Just accept the reality Rogues: our u18s blow yours out of the water. If the group stays together, they may even beat you in an u20s Grand Final! (Assuming your group is ever good enough to get there, obviously!)

The australian tourist team is on a new topic on the st helens forum page if you have a look

You're picking out the fact that you have better U18's than us. Okay then we'll mention that our 20's and first team are better than you. So were our scholarship teams...

The U18's is always a strange competition. It depends many times on the age of the players. Some teams may have as many as eight or more first year 16 year olds in their side playing against a team with eight or more third year 18 players. It makes a huge difference, particularly in the forwards and that's why you see results start to change towards the end of the season as the first year players start to develop physically. Then about this time of year you get the next intake of young players who may (or may not) be better than the previous incumbents.

Rogues has a tendency to make things up as he goes along.

Which proves the point I made initially that there is no official table for the U18's



So who is making things up?

The RFL, The League Express and the League weekly do NOT produce U18 League tables (as I previously stated)

Rogues is right, there isnt a "competition table" at the 18's. Would pointless really as not all teams play each other and with some squads having a high turn over of players it wouldn't really give a good insight into each respective teams.