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| To be honest at The HJ in the away end behind the sticks more noise can be created due to fans being more together and the roof is a bit lower. We could even hear the Quins fans the other week, well for a bit anyway
So the layout you have gone with might turn out to be good.
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| Quote: Sadfish "When the original plans where drawn up we fought quite hard to get the layout the same as Warrington.
But the club dug their heals in and went for the standing ends, the big problem will come when for most matches the standing home end will probably be full with the two seated stands half full at best. Which will look a bit daft.
At the end of the day I think that we got the choice to stand and sit and that was a real contencious issue particluarly with the board before Eamonn.
It's too late now anyhow......'"
I though the North Stand looked quite full on Friday, but that's from being sat in it. Was it not?
As long as the cameras are pointed towards the full stands, unlike the set up currently, there's no issue for me.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "I though the North Stand looked quite full on Friday, but that's from being sat in it. Was it not?'"
It was. Just the edges had empty seats so far as I could see (from the East Stand). Saints are working to attract people into the South Stand it would seem, offering tickets for three matches for a total of £60, which will probably annoy Southstanders who have bought season tickets there!
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| I can't see it being that much of an issue, regarding the atmosphere.
It's going to be hard just to instantly create an atmosphere, it will take time but eventually it will become the fortress that KR was.
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| When I booked my 5 year Season Ticket for the North Stand they told us it was nearly full so only a small bit at either end will be empty or available or unreserved.
In fact they had set the last two blocks at one end as unreserved then ended up selling at least one of those blocks to Season Ticket holders.
I imagine the North Stand will be almost full every game as will the East Stand (Standing) the 'away' end could be quite empty though!
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| Is the South stand at the new stadium going to be just for corporate tickets? Surely not.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Is the South stand at the new stadium going to be just for corporate tickets? Surely not.'"
No there are sections available, but not all of it.
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| I wanted to stand, as a popsider would have preferred the side on view but between standing behind and sittting down there was no real choice. Its not as good but that is the compromise.
In this day and age we are lucky to at least have the choice.
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| Interesting debate. I think the lay out will be ok. I am in the North Stand and there will be atmosphere in the new place. The bad start at Widnes has left people worried about the atmosphere, had we got on the front foot against wire and been playing at the top of our game the atmosphere would have been electric, with east and north stand singing and really getting behind them. 24 - 0 down the atmosphere would have been flat as a pancake at KR! Harlequins next up, not a fixture to get the pulse racing, KR like a morgue even when beating Harlequins! Bradford, best game, atmosphere thus far, because we played some decent stuff and had something to shout about. Just like at KR when we play the big games at the new place the atmosphere will be electric as long as the team gets on the front foot and really rips into the likes of pies, wire and leeds.
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| Quote: Blobbynator "No there are sections available, but not all of it.'"
Really? Looking at the brochure they sent here and the it is named the South (Corporate) Stand.
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18821_1298880800.jpg [quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Really? Looking at the brochure they sent here and the it is named the South (Corporate) Stand.'"
Im sure I read somewhere they had a rethink.
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| They were never going to sell 5-6 k corporate tickets, but leaving that stand till last will ensure that the other three stands are always reasonbly and usually completely full. Then put the TV cameras on the South stand and hey presto, stadium looks full on TV every game
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| I'm sure the board have worked it out.
I think we can confidently say that 6k at Widnes is our base figure. When you switch that to a game at KR that would add an extra 1k - 2k in walk ups.
In terms of crowd figures I would expect the new stadium to have a higher baseline figure for fans.
It could be something closer to 10k. With the big games doubling that figure with additional Saints fans and additional away fans.
Also with the location of the stadium it's basically been built on a dual carrage way so for away fans there will be none of that sat waiting to drive away whilst the walk ups get out the way. There will also be ample parking given the link to the town centre and the car parks there.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I'm sure the board have worked it out.
I think we can confidently say that 6k at Widnes is our base figure. When you switch that to a game at KR that would add an extra 1k - 2k in walk ups.
In terms of crowd figures I would expect the new stadium to have a higher baseline figure for fans.
It could be something closer to 10k. With the big games doubling that figure with additional Saints fans and additional away fans.
Also with the location of the stadium it's basically been built on a dual carrage way so for away fans there will be none of that sat waiting to drive away whilst the walk ups get out the way. There will also be ample parking given the link to the town centre and the car parks there.'"
I'm going to miss sitting in traffic, inching slowly towards the Nag's Head and listening to the post-match on the radio....
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| I can't understand why Saints didn't just replicate the old ground in a new way.
Standing for the away fans at one end.
A popular side holding 6-7k ish, the camera would probably face here.
A smaller seating end for people who would like a seat but a view behind the goals.
A stand for the prawn sandiwch eaters.
One thing is for sure, on derby days it will be bouncing, the ground will be full and loads of away fans will be there. On normal match days it could look quite emtpy, especially if the team doesn't take any momentum in the move.
We had many of the same problems though. If I were you I would just be happy that you have your own stadium which can be used exactly how the clubs wants it to be used, you also have standing room and enough capacity to hold international matches and semi-finals.
I wouldn't complain too much.
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