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Quote: Tony Stark "Wasn't Ande was is?'"

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Ande (for tonight) returned to being a foul mouthed Leeds hating Saint.

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Quote: Ski "

Methinks Hitch needs to have strong words with that young lad about where his priorities lay.

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Quote: St Bernadette "It shouldn't be ignored, especially when lots of fans from both sides are complaining.

Anyways, i've now sent a complaint to Leeds Rhinos, i did send one to the RFL, but the email bounced back
Sorry should have said good on you for following through where most would not.

By the way who were the homophobic rants aimed at or was it more a scatter gun effect???

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They were mainly aimed at Jammer.

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Can I ask when the south stand were shouting to James Graham "your just a f.. ginger b...... did the leeds club play the respect CD. I could hear them shouting this very clearly on TV but did not hear the respect CD kick in

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[b:1zy5cey6]"...To those people that wrote this team off... to all those that criticised this team... tonight's for you" [/b:1zy5cey6] [i:1zy5cey6]Sir Kevin Sinfield[/i:1zy5cey6]:27794.gif



Quote: tropical1 "Can I ask when the south stand were shouting to James Graham "your just a f.. ginger b...... did the leeds club play the respect CD. I could hear them shouting this very clearly on TV but did not hear the respect CD kick in'"


Yes an announcement was made

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"Arguably the best Rugby League side certainly in the last 40 years!" Phil Clarke.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13707.jpg



Quote: Obsessive Saint "They chucked my mate out at full time for literally jumping up and down! Disgrace!!!!!'"


If that was your mate immediately under the old scoreboard then you are a liar! The lad was thrown out as he was calling Kevin Sinfield a c**t at the top of his voice as we were lined up behind the posts for the kick after your last try (good try BTW). He was warned but was too stupid to heed it and carried on until the hooter and was quite rightly ejected. Fat lad, in his twenties, red face (wants to get that checked out!) with the black away top. He was foul-mouthed all night so was lucky to see the end. As for the Leeds fan with no shirt offering to fight anyone I get the impression he had returned drunk and disappointed from Sheffield earlier in the day. He should have been thrown out immediately. Please tell me that wasn't his Dad trying to defend him and getting nicked! He must be bursting with pride! icon_rolleyes.gif
Majority of S's were excellent and were celebrating like a GF win at the end! icon_wink.gif

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Quote: St Bernadette "They were mainly aimed at Jammer.'"


The Leeds fans have a disturbing obsession with Jammer, bless them. It seems to stem from the many times he owned Bailey in the past.

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You did well to find a steward that could speak English! We complained to one last season and he could only grunt! In future ( and I hope there isnt a further need to) complain to a steward in a blue jacket as they are the supervisors - and yes they do speak English!

Well played last night by the way. Your celebrations were as if you had won the Grand Final!

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Quote: rammsteinbloke "The Leeds fans have a disturbing obsession with Jammer, bless them. It seems to stem from the many times he owned Bailey in the past.'"


Or when he flattened Burrow off the ball.....

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The two prats who took their shirts off weren't ejected - they were plainly visible in the South Stand after the stewards moved them on.

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Quote: Chorley Rhino "You did well to find a steward that could speak English! We complained to one last season and he could only grunt! In future ( and I hope there isnt a further need to) complain to a steward in a blue jacket as they are the supervisors - and yes they do speak English!

Well played last night by the way. Your celebrations were as if you had won the Grand Final!'"


If you'd have watched us play quins last week you'd understand why icon_lol.gif

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[img:93clzxoe]http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/Includes/Images/STHE/supersaints.jpg[/img:93clzxoe] King piemon wrote - What a pile of $hit It was cack the whole team and i for one aint impressed AJ wrote - Sean Long once again tore us to pieces. Its all well and good us singing Sean Long is a W@nker, but he was laughing back along by conducting the chant whilst ripping us to bits. Robinson wrote - Saints - it depends on whether the side can get over their mental block. We're more than capable of beating 'Dads Army', but it appears that Wigan still shiit themselves at the mere sight of a red V.:27550.jpg



Those 2 special needs with no shirts on were Wakefield fans who were supporting Yorkshire!! Heard they were taken straight to the Jeremy Kyle show

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: St Bernadette "They were mainly aimed at Jammer.'"


Is James Graham gay?

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Quote: ryano "The lad was thrown out as he was calling Kevin Sinfield a c**t at the top of his voice '"


You should hear what Ski likes to say about him icon_smile.gif

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