That's Brotherton, who was mentioned by Chair Maker above.

Haha, I've just had a glass of milk mate, I'm chilling out now.

Over the years, I've just been used to us having teams with a few players that could light up a game by scoring trys from deep from a break. I'm honestly not knocking the lads, which would be easy to do tonight but I wouldn't back Meli, Gardner, Foster, Soliola, Flannery, Wilkin, Wellens etc going all the way to the line.

Ah, take no notice. I'm stuck in the past when we used to have fast wingers & centres ie Sullivan, Albert, Lyon, Newlove....Quirk (hehe)they were good times.

The fact that Meli was caught by Keith Mason and Wilkin was caught by Andy Coley does make for depressing reading. Hopefully saints will surprise us all and announce the signing of a world class, lightning fast outside back. (we can live in hope)

Meninga...he's coming back. Don't say he's not!!

He's probably faster than Meli, even at the age of 50 (or so?).

Do you ever have those dreams were you are trying to run, but you can hardly move? That's how it is for Meli on that pitch. He caught a high ball tonight under pressure, I was stunned!

He did it twice! The ironic cheers were deafening.

Meli was great all round tonight I thought. Had he played like that in previous Grand Finals we'd probably be licking our wounds about a won 3 lost 2 run.

I agree, he played quite well. He did get caught out in defense down that side a bit though, for gleeson's first try and tomkins' try he missed tackles. However, no mistakes from him and a definate improvement from the past couple of years.

Yep, he did well defending those two tries he let in. they made up for the one he scored. Same old, same old for mine. Except he caught two balls.

Along with the outside backs, there is a distinct lack of pace / power in the backrow (unless Roby starts at 13 and most of his work is up the middle - he runs in harder than most props do).

You have to go back to Scully of pre 2006 really before our back rowers had the speed and power and the ability to break tackles. Wilkin and Flannery made 28 and 22 "tackle busts" this season, Joel Tomkins made 64. Wilkin and Flannery made 9 and 11 clean breaks respectively, all season. Thats one break every 2 or 3 games! In 2004 Scully made 25 clean breaks - more than those 2 put together. I wish we could get Dick Huddarts stats!

Unfair comparison really though seeing as sculthorpe is one of the best players to ever put a shirt on!

Speed did not have a great deal to do with our performance in the Grand Final. We just weren't organised in defence or attack. Hopefully our new coach can sort that out.

Quite so. But the comparison with Tomkins is extremely valid. I put Scully in there as an indicator as to what can be achieved.