on the plus said the bookies should be offering some better odds now for the four nations

aussies and kewis must be rubbing their hands together

That was so dull I almost watched X Factor.

Sykes at full back was stupid.
He only got in the squad due to his good form at stand off in Bradford's end of season run. So Smith switches him to full back.
Sykes should be dropped and Smith should have been sacked after the World Cup. Smith shouldn't be anywhere near the England set up!
The Aussie and Kiwis won't be laughing at all, their chins will hit the floor at how absolutely dreadful the game is here as they'll think that's our level. Thing is how much improvement can Tony Smith get out of them?
We shall see!
As a Wigan fan I'd agree with Tomkins MOM but why Myler? Ratchford played until the season's end and was in form. Myler hadn't played.
Ratchford should have been in the halves.
Let's hope they can improve when the Leeds and Saints player take part.

I agree, but he was the best player on the field. You can't ask for more.

He has been the best halfback in Superleague this season. Cut the kid some slack.

I'm not criticising him. I think the lack of organisation is due to the coaching rather than the young half backs. Look at how wel drilled Wales looked with the ball, some of their angles and moves were very impressive. They don't have the players to carry it off though.

You can only play whats infront of you. He played miles better than Myler. His defence was great and he was so allert and read the game so well. Two of his tries were pure class and not many other players could of scored them!

He is the best we have!

I wonder if the Aussies and Kiwis have jumped back on the plane tonight after seeing the mighty England trounce an amazing Welsh side??

Bet they're both bricking it now

MASSIVE improvement needed if we're going to do anything!

mcguire has to play and will I'm my opinion! If he doesn't it means the whole back line are pretty much rookies!

"You can't win anything with kids"

Briscoe
Hall
Shenton
Eastmond
Smith
Tomkins
McGuire

Then the usual suspects in the pack, Peacock Moz Jammer etc

My thoughts too. I was actually quite encouraged by the Welsh performance and I think they do have some players capable of carrying off the moves (with more practice, confidence and opportunity) but one in particular was prone to dropping the ball. With Wales they were always going to be the development team but they were improved on last year and Harris et al have clearly got a response from them already. With good coaching and consistent ongoing investment, Wales could have a reasonable team in a few years' time if the raw potential of tonight is anything to go by.

You do know what happened last year don't you?
I didn't take too much notice but my 2 boys were watching and ended up watching union because "it's more exciting dad"
Reckon our game is fooked

McGuire at scrum half with Tomkins? With a combination like that we could see the first game of rugby league without a pass from the half-backs!

Which english stand off had the most try assists in sl?

danny mcguire

(sl web site does not take play offs into account)