What did Wello say? Turned it off straight after the whistle

Something along the lines of, "I'll have to watch what I say [Fumes] That was absolutely pathetic. We had a good start and everyone was telling us how good we were, but I thought we only ran well for about 4 weeks and since then it's been pathetic. That effort wasn't good enough, you've got to turn up all season to win Super League and we've not done that again, weve got a good fan base here who work all week and pay their hard earned money but that was a pathetic effort".

Well he might not have the legs any more, but at least he understands the standards demanded.

I hate to say this, but we need a wane. The side has absolutely no fight or commitment, and I think the tone is set at the top, with brown. I thought his comments pre-Good Friday were appalling - he effectively excused two defeats before the games were played.

We need a coach who actually gives a stuff, and who'll make damn sure the players do too.

Good to see Wello serving up a slice of truth pie. As it happens, I thought he was our best player, interception notwithstanding.

Watching that Leeds v Wigan match last night, I couldn't help but think that we'd be completely screwed in a fierce environment like that. That performance couldn't have illustrated that more clearly.

Wire didn't even need to be good.
Thought Turner was our stand out worst player today but the forwards were pretty pathetic as well.

I have never been a hi-ho fan but he looked our best player today, apart from his passes to the invisible man.

Makes some of the 'ape' comparisons a little foolish nowadays!

Walsh was our best player. Roby actually ran from dummy half for once, which caused me to have flashbacks to when he did something other than just tackle. Hohaia showed he can exploit space, but had no support and no brain once through a gap. After them, nothing. It would take too long to describe just how terrible everyone else was.

We were in your faces for most of the first half.

We were definatley better than we have been for large parts of this season - believe me!

If our defence was poor, what was yours?

Utterly shambolic, much like our attitude.

Paul Wellens summed it all up in his post match interview. The attitude was disgusting and it was an embarrassment.

Another spineless, inept, pathetic excuse of a performance from Saints.

Next weeks game is make or break for me, because Brown could go if we don't show better heart and commitment against Huddersfield

The whole attitude from the side was rather blasé right from the off.

It looked as if we were treating the game as a pre season friendly or testimonial, such were the unprofessional attempts at hail mary passes, alongside a lack of desire to get their shirts dirty.

The pack was just soft, with the exception of Mose who actually started to throw his weight around late on after the game was gone.

Our pack really are flat track bullies. They look great against the lesser lights, but when they come up against teams that will get in their faces and rough them up they go hiding. Credit for Wire for seeing how Leeds and Wigan smashed Saints.

I thought a number of players had absolute shockers. Lomax in particular had a very poor game. He normally is one you can rely on but today his head and heart were elsewhere.

It's all well and good paul wellens talking the talk in his interview and saying what all fans want to hear but, he threw a hail mary which lead directly to a try and he adds little to saints team on the field and doesn't seem to lead by example.

Why does Brown get another chance? After the programme notes following the cup exit, McManus's credibility will be shot to pieces if Brown gets to see another game as our coach.

I'm just glad I can sit here in ignorance having not seen the game. But even I can't ignore that terrible start and think everything is OK

Because it costs money to replace and I don't see MacManus forking out again to pay off one coach and possibly prize another one away.

It's all well and good saying Powell, but Powell is doing very well at Cas and does not need Saints.