In fairness, given you had no halfbacks, you did pretty well.

That said, you have won zip for 4 years, and are on a downslope.

Those fans who expect success over the next 5 years will be very disappointed I feel.

IF, if, Wigan had won their home fixture it would have been 8 points?

Two years, actually.

Good point I had forgotten the (now devalued) CC.

I'm sure you'd have said that if you'd won the cup instead of the GF this year

Your tune will change should you win the CC next year but not the GF.

Yes if this happens then the CC will be the traditional and most valued prize in RL. And the GF will be a silly publicity stunt that we brought in to copy the Aussies

that's another fine mess you got me into

The CC isn't devalued for me - a trophy is a trophy and i'd love to see Saints get to the final every season - it's a great day out and even better when you win
any Dragons fan will still gloat over their wembley appearance a few seasons ago even though they lost !
The GF is the pinnacle of course tho' for some teams getting into the play-offs is a satisfactory season - you have to e realistic...

Its a bit depressing from a Saints point of veiw, but the GF shouldn't be the only definitive game of the year. Wigan played an almost perfect game, whereas we turned up undercooked. Their kicking game, for example, was spot on whereas in the games leading up had been poor. We looked clueless at times and lethargic in defence. We also seemed to defend poorley outwide. Its no wonder we weren't in the game.
Judging that game alone leaves you feeling Wigan are by far and away the best team in the comp.

However...Wigan did lose a good number of games to their rivals Saints, Wire, Leeds and Hudds so they're not actually as bullet proof as they may seem. There's no reason that we shouldn't be confident of being in with a chance of toppling them next year.

Losing Leon & Kyle was the difference for me - too many of the boys had off days especially Wilkin who probably had his worst ever game - basically the Pie boys were too good on the day against an inferior team - end of.

I was adding 2 points for the final!

Yeah..because it was a real close game on Good Friday wasn't it! Could have gone either way...well except Saint's way obviously.
And if Saints had won one further game on top of that it would have been down to points difference. In fact, let's pretend you won 3 more games and actually won the league....can you actually breathe down there with all that sand going up your nose?