who do you support again ski

Like an aeroplane.

I wouldn't say Fielden's really bashed anyone around since he joined Wigan. He's gone steadily downhill.

When he was at Bradford he was the best Prop Forward in Super League and any team would have wanted Stuart Fielden playing for them, you could also say he was one of the best Prop Forwards in the World at the time aswell...

Similar to James Graham right now ?

Yet one could do really well in the NRL and one could go okay ?

Hmmmm, the difference ? One plays for St Helens.

No Stuart Fielden and James Graham are completely different types of Prop Forward as i posted earlier, and no i wouldn't say similar to what James Graham is now
Why does one playing for St Helens make the difference?, I have already mentioned i consider Matt Gidley the best Centre in Super League and i rate Jon Wilkin highly also Fielden was playing for Bradford Bulls you know the main local rivals of Leeds Rhinos...

its probably been said already, but wasnt graham voted as the best prop in the world by the oz press last year?

I agree, one is exceptional at his job making more metres on a consistent basis than anybody else. One is as fragile as a feather and generally does nothing except embarrass himself everytime he takes the field.

Even Fielden at his pomp, I'd like to see the stats comparison to see how they compare. My guess would be that Graham would still be ahead but without the nonsense fist cocking everytime hit hard.

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 I think thats how to post a link? They do seem to be different type of prop. Graham makes alot more meters and carries from less games. Fielden makes a massive amount of tackle busts and clean breaks, but his error count/missed tackles is quite big as well. I'd still pick Jammer

www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 I think thats how to post a link? They do seem to be different type of prop. Graham makes alot more meters and carries from less games. Fielden makes a massive amount of tackle busts and clean breaks, but his error count/missed tackles is quite big as well. I'd still pick Jammer

There we have it.

Stuart Fielden at his very best made less metres, less carries, less tackles, more errors and more missed tackles.

Yet this guy could go really well in the NRL yet Graham not as good ?

Okkkkaaayyyyy........

Whilst I think its pretty obvious Jammer is one of our players that could go well down under, have a closer look at Fielden's stats - he's got an average metre per carry of 8.3, which is huge. Add that to his higher number of offloads he (in 2004) is/was obviously the more high impact of the two.

However, considering people say playing 80 minutes a week burnt him out, his work rate is unimpressive compared to Jammer's. He also missed a lot more tackles.

I don't think there is any doubting the impact Fielden used to make, he used to change the game consistently for the Bulls. However his stats don't lie. On a consistent basis he made less metres and less carries combined with less tackling and more missed tackles.

Consistency is the key for me here although it matters not. Fieldens game has seen his be a shadow of what he was when he should really be peaking right now, he is a complete enigma in the game. Funnily enough, I think a spell in the NRL right now could be perfect for Fielden. Sharpen up his appetite for the game, lay some demons to rest and regain his undoubted talent.

Just show that Feilden wasn't that great (possibly a bit harsh) this is him of 2004 vs Peacock last year as i see them as the same type of prop. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Peacock better in nearly every department

Just show that Feilden wasn't that great (possibly a bit harsh) this is him of 2004 vs Peacock last year as i see them as the same type of prop. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Peacock better in nearly every department