Load of rubbish! He's getting slagged off because he isn't performing and doing Richards/Tilley/Savelio out of a game!

What twaddle - there are Wiganers in the squad who aren't getting flak for goodness sake.

Listen Louie, we saw you put it in at the back end of last year. Pull your finger back out and we'll stop giving you deserved stick. Oh, and stop trying to offload in ridiculous positions. And run your weight. And bend your back when you tackle.

On Lomax. I've always liked him as a player, he has come through a tough time. I think he's playing a bit lame at the moment. He took another knock yesterday and didn't look quite right to me.

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Totally agree with your comments good post

Who got tonnes of credit for playing really well before signing a new contract? LMS.
Who got Saints player of the year last year? Turner.

Must be because they are from different places to LMS and Turner this year?

Lance getting credit, must be because he is a fans favourite?

Wellens credited for a decent showing even though he may not have the ability anymore, must be because he is the first name on the team sheet for every fan?

Or maybe your just trying to excuse everyone and anyone. I'm glass half full, but you are the never ending drink.

They'll have a club meeting, someone will tell them they're all in this together. End of.

Whoever decided to offer LMS and Wilkin new deals needs firing. Too many players are having it far too easy here at the moment.

Correct, and maybe run a few ideas up the flagpole and see who salutes them. Important thing is that everyone is on the same page and they all sing from the same hymn sheet!

I wonder after the end of last season how many fans wouldn't have taken...2nd place a point behind league leaders leeds at this stage in the season?
I could understand it if it were 1 point above London.

All of them. They'd probably take that for next season if it was offered. Too many Saints fans believed their own hype. Prior to Good Friday, they were seriously looking at an entire season undefeated. Just 3 losses later and some are wondering where the next win will come from.

Its feast or famine. Never anything in between!

Not at all.

It's not the results Saints fans are concerned about, it is the performances and most importantly the attitude we've shown in the big games. All of the key games this season have been farcical and over within 20 minutes. We've started them like wet lettuces.

No one would mind having lost the derby and in the cup to Leeds and Magic to Warrington if we'd really had a dig. But in all three games we've been completely flaccid, limp. No aggression and a sense that the whole team is in shock. No attacking structure, no defense worth mentioning.

Its not about the results as such, its the lack of jeart shown against Wigan and Wire. These are our two main local rivals and wins against these means more than anything. The players and coaches (all of them) didnt seem bothered that we were losing to them at all

I can only judge my own reaction. Some have been on about this since lost 1, some since before.

To me I have not been overly concerned.

Catalan I thought was an ok shift just a little easy on a team with poor form.
Wakefield away is always an unknown quantity
Leeds was amazing and unexpected.
Huddersfield in the cup, we looked a little lack luster.
Cas we were extremely lucky to come back
Wigan was pretty dire
Widnes I expect given Leeds in the cup
Leeds in the cup we just looked disjointed.
London and Bradford where to be expected, although we made hard work of London.
Warrington is starting to look like more of a pattern

We can't put it all down to luck it's a run of 11 games where performances have dropped off. Some we could coast through, but others we needed a stroke of luck to get by.

I'm not advocating sacking everyone, but everyone does have to look at themselves and that includes the untouchables.
My concern is not Brown, it is that this is a pattern that occured under a different coach with different players. Therefore we can't just put it down to old heads and player power.

I really hate cliches.

Oh; I just realised he is from over the hump.