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Quote: Fishsta "I'm trying to figure this out here...

A troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages. NONE of which apply to my post. I post about Kieron Cunningham in a thread titled "Cunningham". He's guilty of several high shots. I don't provoke a reaction, merely state my opinion.

However, another application of troll is that the term is often used as an ad hominem strategy to discredit an opposing position by attacking its proponent. Something which has happened TO me on more occasions than I can remember. However, has anyone else had this kind of warning?

Not that I've seen.

Hence I struggle to take this seriously in anyway.'"


Questioning the moderation process????
ban him

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Quote: Fishsta "Hence I struggle to take this seriously in anyway.'"


A bit like us with you for years.

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Quote: Fishsta "Please tell me this isn't serious.

Cripes, warned for expressing an opinion about a player. Whatever next?'"


Your comment was viewed, as many of your posts are, as wholly designed to provoke a reaction that would lead to the derailment of the thread turning it into another bitch-fest.

Your wikipedia-lite definition of trolling is interesting yet not entirely complete. Trolling is a method of fishing where one or more fishing lines, baited with lures or bait, this is what your posts are interpreted as by many.

You constantly fish for bites and hide behind the fact that you can use a dictionary and thesaurus and have a good grasp of the english language to hide behind this fact. You make out that you are merely trying to promote meaningful conversation and debate, yet your posting style suggest otherwise.

Ultimately the judgment that someone is a troll is a subjective one, if you feel you are being misidentified as a troll due to the moderation team's interpretation of your behavior and are genuinely interested in a 'straight' conversation then I'd suggest a simple solution - rephrase your views in a less hostile and obviously anti-Saints way. If you stopped that, people would probably respond better to you.

As Saint Simon rightly points out, you are lucky you are not receiving at least another warning for publicly criticising the moderation process. Let this be the end of the matter.

TS

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The topic is Keiron Cunningham signing a new contract.

Continue.


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Right, Tony Stark... first off, thanks for actually taking the time to write a PROPER SENSIBLE REPLY.

Quote: Tony Stark "Your comment was viewed, as many of your posts are, as wholly designed to provoke a reaction that would lead to the derailment of the thread turning it into another bitch-fest. '"


That was not the intention at all. It was simply stating my opinion, the aim of any forum-based website. I think if you were looking for an example of a trolling post from this thread, how about "hudd giants" saying Cunningham is signing for Huddersfield? That wasn't opinion, it was a statement designed to draw a reaction, a trolling post.

How about "nikos" post? Intimating your new stadium won't be complete for another 8 or so years?

"Sibbs Rhinos" with this gemfat and old. Will be prone to more injuries. Glad saints snapped up his contract.[/i

The truth is, there are MANY examples, in this thread alone of "trolling". Mine ISN'T one of them, or if it is to be classified as "trolling", it's probably the mildest one you could have picked to warn.

Quote: Tony Stark "Your wikipedia-lite definition of trolling is interesting yet not entirely complete. Trolling is a method of fishing where one or more fishing lines, baited with lures or bait, this is what your posts are interpreted as by many.'"


That's conversation. I speak, you speak, someone else speaks. It would be boring if no-one posted for fear they might get a reply!

Quote: Tony Stark "You constantly fish for bites and hide behind the fact that you can use a dictionary and thesaurus and have a good grasp of the english language to hide behind this fact. You make out that you are merely trying to promote meaningful conversation and debate, yet your posting style suggest otherwise.'"


I haven't used a dictionary or thesaurus for years. Can I suggest the people who AREN'T trying to promote meaningful conversation and debate are those who, upon reading one of my posts, respond with nothing but insults?

Quote: Tony Stark "Ultimately the judgment that someone is a troll is a subjective one, if you feel you are being misidentified as a troll due to the moderation team's interpretation of your behavior and are genuinely interested in a 'straight' conversation then I'd suggest a simple solution - rephrase your views in a less hostile and obviously anti-Saints way. If you stopped that, people would probably respond better to you.'"


Like the examples above?

Quote: Tony Stark "As Saint Simon rightly points out, you are lucky you are not receiving at least another warning for publicly criticising the moderation process. Let this be the end of the matter.

TS'"


As an ex moderator of several other internet forums, I will say this is the craziest rule I've ever heard of. I think with this post and the examples above, I'll probably get the 2nd warning, but you surely must concede... I've got an unavoidable point, and certain others should have had red writing on their posts.

I'm going to leave it there and say some of us are just going to have to agree to disagree. But once again, thanks to you, Tony, for not following the route of many and posting insults/vitriol/utter balderdash, and setting a great example of how to have a conversation and get your point across in a reasonable gentlemanly fashion without any insults. Whether I agree or disagree with your points, respect where it's due for making your points very well indeed. Trolls, take heed, this is how it should be done.

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Quote: Tony Stark "The topic is Keiron Cunningham signing a new contract.

Continue.
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My apologies. I posted the above before I saw this.

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In keeping with the topic, I think I'm right in saying there's only Cunningham and Senior who've been present since the beginning of Super League and are still playing.... who's going to give up first?

I think Senior's been luckier with injuries, Cunningham's had a few, maybe they will be the telling factor.

Reckon any bookies will be taking bets, seeing as they take bets on "first coach to be sacked" each year?

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Quote: Fishsta "In keeping with the topic, I think I'm right in saying there's only Cunningham and Senior who've been present since the beginning of Super League and are still playing.... who's going to give up first?

I think Senior's been luckier with injuries, Cunningham's had a few, maybe they will be the telling factor.

Reckon any bookies will be taking bets, seeing as they take bets on "first coach to be sacked" each year?'"

well as kc has said next year is his last, i think it'll either be him, or a draw of course

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Quote: Saint Simon "well as kc has said next year is his last, i think it'll either be him, or a draw of course'"


Dont feed the troll my friend.

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Quote: Fishsta "Reckon any bookies will be taking bets, seeing as they take bets on "first coach to be sacked" each year?'"


They will, but it will be about January before you see anything. No coaches actually left this season, Lowes didn't technically lose his job title even though he isn't the coach any more.

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Quote: NSL "They will, but it will be about January before you see anything. No coaches actually left this season, Lowes didn't technically lose his job title even though he isn't the coach any more.'"


so Potter could be the first? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Don Brennan "Dont feed the troll my friend.'"

I'm happy to have a debate with him, when he's being sensible, unfortunately thats only about 5% of the time

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Quote: Tony Stark "The topic is Keiron Cunningham signing a new contract.

Continue.
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If keeping Cunningham means we have no money left for a decent prop we should have cut him loose. Tough to say, but not as tough as our young backs will find it next season with no heavy artillery to blast holes in defensive lines for them. They might as well start planting poppies now.

Everybody repeat after me: 'No props equals ...'

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Quote: Mugwump "If keeping Cunningham means we have no money left for a decent prop we should have cut him loose. Tough to say, but not as tough as our young backs will find it next season with no heavy artillery to blast holes in defensive lines for them. They might as well start planting poppies now.

Everybody repeat after me

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