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| So it sounds like a money move, big risk by Sav in that Agar could decoach him inside 6 weeks. Like LFC Saint has mentioned Knowles and Davies to step up, don,t know what kind of reception the Saints fans will give Sav if he gets picked on Sunday, bit of a Judas feel to it if confirmed by the club.
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| Quote: LFC Saint "Savelio has indeed signed Sean Magennis ex saints player told me today. He was told by Gary Wheeler. All his local Warrington friends are telling everybody so its no big secret it will have to be announced soon.
Hope he never plays for us again. Give Olly Davies a run instead.'"
I posted few weeks back that hes been in talks with Warrington. Big loss.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "BUT, if you were "head hunted" by another company and offered a far better salary, with fringe benefits (car, pension etc) the surely you would consider it. As I've said previously Saints will have a max value for Savelio. If another club want to pay more than that then Saints have a big decision to make. Personally I would stick to my guns and let him go, because it will cause further problems down the line when the next young stars come knocking at the chairmans door asking for salaries that the club don't think are justified.
Savelio is a very good prospect, but that's all he is at the moment. What happens if he doesn't fulfill that potential and you finish up paying him way above market rate for four or five years?'"
Completely agree. Player movement is a market. If he goes he goes, we move on. There are other players who I'd be more worried about losing.
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| Quote: St pete "I posted few weeks back that hes been in talks with Warrington. Big loss.'"
How is he a big loss? He's a prospect, no more. People are getting carried away with this I think.
For every one you lose there's another one waiting to take his place.
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| Quote: Allez "How is he a big loss? He's a prospect, no more. People are getting carried away with this I think.
For every one you lose there's another one waiting to take his place.'"
It's a big loss as he's a first team member that we have very very high hopes of. We now have to replace Sav with someone who won't be on the low money Sav is on so I doubt we will get better in.
I think he's going to be a real top player and so do saints.
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| Currie, Savelio, and Philbin is a promising back row to say the least.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Currie, Savelio, and Philbin is a promising back row to say the least.'"
Warrington are building well for next year. We seem to be letting everyone go and not many coming in which is a worry.
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| Quote: St pete "It's a big loss as he's a first team member that we have very very high hopes of. We now have to replace Sav with someone who won't be on the low money Sav is on so I doubt we will get better in.
I think he's going to be a real top player and so do saints.'"
He may be, he may not be but I have heard that so so many times. Bracek, Stankevitch, Jonkers, Dixon, Ashurst, Wheeler, Walker - all the next big thing and all of whom have left (or stayed) and done....squat.
I just don't think you can mortgage your future on a 'maybe'. For every two Savelios I'd take one Vea.
I'm not upset if he goes, especially to Wire. They have form in turning prospects into also rans and fodder for Championship outfits.
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| If Philbin was at Saints he'd be behind Walker and Hand for a place in the team. Poor player.
Savelio is gutting but i'd be even more gutted if he developed for 2 more years at Saints then decided go to the NRL cut our losses now.
Olly Davies is a great player. England u18 player who runs his blood to water.
Amor
Roby
Walmsley
Greenwood
Vea
Wilkin
Tasi / Haggarty
Thompson / Richards
Lomax
? Another signing
That is a decent pack still and we will have more options in the backs. I believe Quinlan will be signed for next year aswell if all goes well with Mcdonnell dropping to the back up winger we have been searching for.
Quinlan
Mcdonnell / Swift
Turner
Percival
Makinson
Burns
Walsh
Lomax to provide cover for Hooker and Full back untill 100 percent.
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| Quote: Allez "He may be, he may not be but I have heard that so so many times. Bracek, Stankevitch, Jonkers, Dixon, Ashurst, Wheeler, Walker - all the next big thing and all of whom have left (or stayed) and done....squat.
I just don't think you can mortgage your future on a 'maybe'. For every two Savelios I'd take one Vea.
I'm not upset if he goes, especially to Wire. They have form in turning prospects into also rans and fodder for Championship outfits.'"
I've never championed any of them players you named and I never get carried away with young prospects but Sav is different class, he's going to be a top top player and will go to NRL and be a big name in world rugby.
I did champion Eastmond by the way and I believe Eastmond and Sav are the most exciting youngsters we have produced in last 10 years easy.
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| Quote: St pete "I've never championed any of them players you named and I never get carried away with young prospects but Sav is different class, he's going to be a top top player and will go to NRL and be a big name in world rugby.
I did champion Eastmond by the way and I believe Eastmond and Sav are the most exciting youngsters we have produced in last 10 years easy.'"
I rank Percival ahead of Savelio in our current batch, but that may because he plays a position we as a country have a chronic lack of ...
There are plenty of players who have been championed by fans who turned into a bust, and plenty who came right of left field (I will never forget a post on another forum bemoaning why the club would continue to persist with Roby (who was too small) and Graham who was never going to make it).
Savelio has the potential to do everything you say yes, but there are plenty of traps along the way where he could fall into "could of been" category... The off field matters can knock him off course, particularly so given his ongoing matters with his condition.
But since we're talking about failing potential can we add Frodsham and Clough to the list? Frodsham in particular was the best thing since sliced bread!
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| Pointless signing anyone due to all the things that could go wrong, why get out of bed in the morning? Some players grow admittedly but I genuinely think you can tell instantly when a player will be class. I remember watching scullys debut at Warrington and knowing the first time he took the ball up that he would be absolute class...same with Harris. Not putting savelio in scullys bracket but the boy clearly has something above most at his age.
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| I've heard that he wants to play back in Warrington. He respects St Helens as a club, but doesn't want to represent a sh@thole of a town.
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| Quote: Gazwire "I've heard that he wants to play back in Warrington. He respects St Helens as a club, but doesn't want to represent a sh@thole of a town.'"
Yeah, that'll be it definitely. He's got a tattoo of Golden Gates on his heart no doubt.
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| Look, if the guy wants to swap a seat at the top table of British RL for the cavernous pit of mediocrity that is our Cheshire neighbours then let him get on with it. More fool him and his mother in this instance. The lad's a talent but let's see how much of a talent he is in another 18 months stuck at that place. He'll probably end up playing half under the shambolic management that is Warrington.
Saints will move on and continue to win. Warrington don't know where their next championship is coming from. If the guy wants to forfeit what's good for his development in place of the cheap dollar, then on yer bike pal. Enjoy the RL wilderness.
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