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| Quote: Longy_7 "Walsh as Captain?'"
I think there's a few candidates to be honest. I hadn't really considered Walsh though, I'd imagine Roby and Wilkin were both more likely.
It'll be interesting to see what Brown does in terms of taking the captaincy off Wellens. Surely when everyone is fit there is simply no place for Wellens in the 17, and you cant really justify having your captain sat in the stands.
It wouldn't surprise me to see us go down the route of having a club captain and team captain. It's a bit silly for me but it wouldn't surprise me.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "I think there's a few candidates to be honest. I hadn't really considered Walsh though, I'd imagine Roby and Wilkin were both more likely.
It'll be interesting to see what Brown does in terms of taking the captaincy off Wellens. Surely when everyone is fit there is simply no place for Wellens in the 17, and you cant really justify having your captain sat in the stands.
It wouldn't surprise me to see us go down the route of having a club captain and team captain. It's a bit silly for me but it wouldn't surprise me.'"
Why are people still suggesting Wello isn't guaranteed to be in the 17? He will be in it, every single week and he'll be captain.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Why are people still suggesting Wello isn't guaranteed to be in the 17? He will be in it, every single week and he'll be captain.'"
Unfortunately there's a very good chance you're right.
But with:
1.Lomax
6.Burns
7.Walsh
13.Wilkin
14.Hohaia
where could he play Wellens without looking like a complete and utter numpty?
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "Unfortunately there's a very good chance you're right.
But with
I think he may go with Turner at 13.
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| Quote: Top Saint "I think he may go with Turner at 13.'"
Lomax
Makinson Percival Jones Swift
Burns Walsh
Amor Roby Walmsley
LMS Vea
Turner
Hohaia Thompson Masoe Richards/ Beaumont/ New Signing
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Lomax
Makinson Percival Jones Swift
Burns Walsh
Amor Roby Walmsley
LMS Vea
Turner
Hohaia Thompson Masoe Richards/ Beaumont/ New Signing
???'"
You've forgot Wilkin and Flanagan.
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| Quote: Blobbynator "You've forgot Wilkin and Flanagan.'"
I haven't, I've left them out. Who would you put them ahead of?
Realistically, Wilkin will be at 13 ahead of Turner I'd imagine, but I just think Turner could offer more with a consistent run there. What we couldn't afford to do is have Wilkin in the second row and Turner at 13 as there's just not enough size then.
Flanaghan just doesn't fit into any sort of permanent role, and if we're serious about challenging again, we need players who offer more threat with the ball. Good backup if he's willing to play that role again though...
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| You're insane if you'd include Beaumont before Wilkin.
Turner has probably had some of his better games in the middle recently to be fair to him but with Walsh, Lomax, Burns & Wilkin in the side, we're well covered for play makers and will be reliant on Turner playing at Centre, with Percival as the other option as we don't really have too many options there.
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "If we could play Wilkin at prop I wouldn't have to resort to ghostmont
I reckon Percival and Turner have stepped up the latter part of the season, Percival has improved a lot in defence and Turner has improved his skill set. For me its Jones who needs to step up now he is OK in defence but is lacking in go forward and a quality passing game.
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| When we say step it up, lets not con ourselves we need a full squad. Jones is a very useful player to have good enough in most positions and therefore key to any squad. He can hold his own in the pack and switch to centre more than competently if need be
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| Quote: Judder Man "I reckon Percival and Turner have stepped up the latter part of the season, Percival has improved a lot in defence and Turner has improved his skill set. For me its Jones who needs to step up now he is OK in defence but is lacking in go forward and a quality passing game.'"
He doesn't make himself available enough going forward enough I agree, but i don't think he's a bad passer. Leave him at centre and let him develop a partnership with Swift and his attack (and Swifts defence) will both improve (or they're shipped elsewhere)...
We have been calling for a defensively minded centre since Talau and now we have one we want to move him away! Can't win
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| We've got problems if we see Turner as a loose. He's a centre and it's as simple as that.
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| Quote: St pete "We've got problems if we see Turner as a loose. He's a centre and it's as simple as that.'"
He's awful is what he is. Shouldn't be at the club.
On Burns, this guy had better be good or I'm holding you personally responsible. You were the one who drove the idea and I bet McManus got the idea from here, as I know he's got the media manager feeding my posts back to him on an hourly basis.
I must say however that I've never noticed him playing for Hull KR? He's never done particularly well in a game I've seen, but bar games against us at home or on Sky I've not seen many to be fair. From what you've put I'm expecting Tea Ropati or Jason Hooper type player? A tough, uncompromising player with a bit of class about him?
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| Quote: Saddened! "He's awful is what he is. Shouldn't be at the club.
On Burns, this guy had better be good or I'm holding you personally responsible. You were the one who drove the idea and I bet McManus got the idea from here, as I know he's got the media manager feeding my posts back to him on an hourly basis.
I must say however that I've never noticed him playing for Hull KR? He's never done particularly well in a game I've seen, but bar games against us at home or on Sky I've not seen many to be fair. From what you've put I'm expecting Tea Ropati or Jason Hooper type player? A tough, uncompromising player with a bit of class about him?'"
Last time I saw him play (I think), he kicked a 40-20 an then set up a try from the resulting set.
He's a standoff, he seems to be pretty good at everything, rather than one facet dominating his game.
He's a firey competitor, which we need (I think that translate into him being a half decent defender). He's an actual half back so, unlike this year, if walsh gets injured, we're not relying on the likes of Wilkin or Hohaia to be our main playmaker. Burns will take the main role with (presumably) Lance slotting in alongside in a much more comfortable circumstance. The fact he'sgot a kicking game will also stop the oppo stacking all their pressure on Walsh on the last play.
Whether he'll be Man of Steel or win us the GF and CC I don't know, but we'll certainly be better than we are currently. He got selected for the Exiles in front of Blake Green of Wigan, which should stand for something.
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