I slated him the last 2 years, but this year he has been decent. But not what you want from a 6, but that is a club decision not his.

Stop talking sensibly, that's not welcome on this board.

Sack them all

I hesitated in responding to your post, but, the only two "low class fans" on here appear to be you and Barry, re read this thread you will see lots of understanding of your situation, a lack of halves, an injury pile up, still top of the league etc from Wire posters and you've hardly been inundated with idiots.

As a club we've obviously had plenty of pain from Saints, so of course it's a big win for us, a total reverse of the larruping you gave us at our place earlier this season. It does happen in sport and it's how you take it on from here that will define your season. If we get you in the play offs I wouldn't be too cock sure who will win but rather perversely a game at LP rather than HJ might just suit us and that is what makes sport compelling.

Have a think Loz, it's not so bad after all

Which is why we moved him to the hooking role in the U19's. Perhaps more suited to that role.

Spot on, this. Seems to me as though modern back lines are coached by the wrong people these days. In the past, it'd be the halves that orchestrated the attacks, now it seems to be pre-planned by those off the pitch. It now has an air of practice, practice, practice and fock trying anything new.

I think this has come from more the change of defences, because they're much more structured now. It's hard to break down a structured defence with off the cuff play which is why more structured attacks (Wigan, Cas, Leeds, for example) tend to be more successful.

For me, Warrington are one of the few who deliberately play without much structure in attack. When it works for them they usually score highly but it can often result in them falling flat on their face as the defences can shut it down.

Sorry that its so late as I'm only just watching the game back.

How come you were all booing and singing "4 points to the referee" after our first try? I didn't see anything wrong with it?

I think it was due to the penalty given against LMS for leaning round at the play of the ball. IMO it was an incorrect call, I didn't see much wrong with what he did.

A few things. The penalty Monaghan got where he feigned injury was the softest penalty ever. Then the ref gave the 'offside' call against a player with two feet behind his own try line LMS reached in, but the ball was played far too far forward by Warrington, meaning the Saints players could reach it from behind the line. Surely to god, as soon as it's touched by the Wire dummy half, they can do what they like?

It had no bearing on the outcome at all, but the refereeing was appalling throughout. Farcical calls, farcical control of the game. It got to the point where the touch judges were overulling him all the time.

Because he got the game in which Saints were beaten, which is all it takes this season, given that Cas are on our shoulder and that's the team everyone wants to win the LLS.