i would be more upset if i didn't see it as players wouldn't be committing to tackles. Even the most die hard saints fan must thats not foul play.

It's hard to see where contact was on that video. It's whether the injury was a result of Flower's tackle (Walsh hurt his jaw so it would be then a high tackle) or the collision with Amor.

Either way I wouldn't say it was late.

Definitely not a late tackle but if it's that contact which has led to a facial injury it's a high tackle without use of the arms. I wouldn't class it as intentional but I would say it's dangerous and reckless. Flower could be looking at a couple of games but the angle is inconclusive as to the origin of the contact.

GET. OFF. THE. CRACK.

looks like the coaches attitude is rubbing off on some off the fans. Seriously not sure ho you can complain about that its hardly like its intentional, its not late and its not a shoulder charge. somebody find out which side of his face hurts and you will know if its from flower or Amor.

From that clip, I would not say it's not late, when you pause just before contact, the ball is leaving his hands as the player goes in.

Amor has not cracked his face as when Flower hits Walsh, Amor is already below shoulder height.

However, it is a shoulder charge. There are no arms out for a tackle. He does not make any tackle hence why Walsh is sent spinning to the ground. And it's not a shoulder charge that's below head height.

It's a tackle that should have been penalized under today's rules. You have to have the arms around the player nowa days. Leaning in shoulder first is never going to work..

Not sure whether they will sight him off that evidence or not, but it's fairly clear. But given it was a friendly and if Walsh escapes with just a bruise I imagine it will be ignored.

That one wasn't late, but it definitely wasn't a "traditional" tackle, can't really tell what Flower was trying (other than to bruise Walsh) but as he sees the ball go he effectively turns it into a shoulder charge whilst abandoning the tackle. Seems pretty clear cut that it was a reckless challenge to me, though certainly not late.

FWIW, from pausing it looks to me like Flower catches his jaw with the front (rather than point) of his shoulder which probably saved Walsh from his jaw breaking. Walsh was stooping to make the pass, Amor had already fallen before contact was made due to the presence of Pettybourne hence the fallout, but the initial contact from Flower was definitely the cause of the damage. Hope Walsh is ok.

Because it's not like wiganers have adopted the attitude of everything our players do is just aggression, even when 2/3 players are getting injured for the opposition every game, where as if anyone so much as sneezes 10 feet near a Wigan player it's one of the greatest crimes known to humanity, is it?

What's that saying about people in glass houses?

It seems as though there were 2 seperate incidents. The one on Vine and one afterwards where Amor clattered into Walsh.

So no one is sure where the jaw got injured. It could have been from either hit.

They're the same incident, Walsh doesn't get up from the one shown on vine (it's from WiganTV @ 1:07 ish).

Ah right. I was not there so I've only seen the vine and the talk on the net. It sounded like 2 different incidents, one from a kick and one from a pass.

But either way if he's fine then I doubt many will be bothered in a week or two.

There was absolutely nothing in the incident from the kick and Walsh was fine after that.

It was definitely the incident with Flower where he got hurt.

Since when did Saints turn into a bunch of cowards? It was a repercussion from a tough attempted tackle, that's all.

Spineless. You wish you was as ruthless as Wigan.