Wigan Saints 2010.

Result 26-24 to Saints.

Wellens through the ball into the crowd on the full time hooter and shouted with his arms wide running down the South stand.

Your opinions on that?

This thread is a joke, he threw it underarm into the stand, like many other players do when celebrating. In fact Lima did it minutes later and received no reaction. But then others are also irritated because Tomkins celebrated after his try.

So are Saints really upset about the celebration or who was doing it. Both Hock and Tomkins are world class and not very popular with the opposition. Should they be banned from celebrating? Maybe we should extend it to Briers at wire, Wilkin, head high hohia and the slug at saints etc?!

It's a ball Pete, not a knife, bullet or hand grenade.

Oh right, so If it's thrown and it's someone directly on the nose it won't hurt?

If its a kid in the face it's ok?

Rugby balls going into the crowd. Blimey its getting a bit dangerous. I think this could lead to conversions being banned or nets being erected behind the posts.

I don't recall any Stains supporters making such a big deal of it when Wellens did the same at the DW. Nor did the Wigan supporters for that matter. I agree that players shouldn't do it but the ref spoke with Hock and that should be the end of it. Its certainly dangerous for players to put in high shots like the one from Hohaia on Tomkins but it happens in the heat of the moment occasionally. No malicious intent from Lance and none from Hock either.

I don't recall the police, the ref, the fans and the RFL getting involved when/if wello did it.

The ref yes but fans and police no. I can understand your frustration at losing but making such a big issue of a ball being thrown into the crowd is way OTT. In terms of Hock v Wellens incident the only difference is the reaction of the Stains fans. Get a grip before you lose the plot completely.

It's not out of frustration at losing to Wigan as Wigan deserved the win and IMO was easily the best team on the day without a shadow of doubt.

However, I didn't like what hock did, IMO it was intentional and should be warned over it.

Intentional? Get real. He was celebrating just as Wellens was. So Wellens' was intentional as well?

The ref did speak with Hock and that should be the end of it. Do you want to put him in the Stocks in the centre of St.Helens as well?

Now theres a thought, yes

Now that would be interesting

Look mate, that's the way I seen it with my own eyes at the game and then on the replay. That's the way the ref seen it as he had words with him, the rfl have said its in the refs report and will be investigated, so it's clear something did happen.

You will not change my view on this with constant backing of very poor behaviour by Hock and I don't expect to change your view on it.

It's history now so I'm going to draw a line under it from my side as I'm bored stiff with it to be honest.

If the rfl charge then IMO rightly so, if not then its done with.

are you kidding just watch other games and players often throw balls into the crowd,especially when the crowd have been bad mouthing them
lets not just single out this player because you where beaten
Briers is the biggest culprit and a player called Long often did it
get a life and stop moanin

In no way am I backing poor behaviour. I have said that Hock or Wellens shouldn't have thrown the ball into the crowd. The ref. dealt with it and if the RFL follow it up then I have no problem with that. What I have an issue with is the OTT reaction from Stains fans.

Right show me the clip of Wellens doing the same that you vermin fans are banging on about.