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| Quote: SaintsFan " If the rumours are correct that some senior players are helping them out then that doesn't exactly instil confidence '" But, if you think about, any coach should get[i some [/isupport from his senior players. Longy mentioned how the senior players worked on a change of strategy with Daniel Anderson. How often do you see an injured senior player sitting by a coach on sky and them chatting away?
Its may be to a bigger degree for us at this point, but the hopeful side of me says we have got a lot of experience in the squad and if their all called upon in this hour of need, it could galvanise the player group and focus them on whatever new tricks they're trying to perfect.
Fingers crossed.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "But, if you think about, any coach should get[i some [/isupport from his senior players. Longy mentioned how the senior players worked on a change of strategy with Daniel Anderson. '"
Coaches discussing things with senior players is par for the course. Coaches freely admit to it. All ours have. But that's not what we are talking about here. Longy's suggestion was made when Anderson first came over, when he didn't know the players. It would be perfectly natural for players to suggest ideas. And Anderson recognised coaching potential in Longy.
This is about senior players discussing game plans and such like. The players are too close to the coaching team. Coaches should sort out game plans and the like; they should be separate from the players and able to make objective decisions about whether any ideas are correct going forward. I am concerned that the coaching team is just too close to the players for there to be objective decisions made. If Meli ends up on the wing, for example, that will simply confirm my concerns as in no way should Meli be ever seen on the wing again. However, that might just be messageboard gossip.
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| It's the same principle, just to a bigger degree. We have an inexperienced caretaker set up, so it's good they have experienced pros like Laffranchi to support them.
What they will need to guard against, which is perhaps what you're touching on, is that they have the conviction and judgement to pick the right bits of advice to use.
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| Edit
That last bit doesn't read very well, but I can't seem to edit posts on an iPhone. I'm sure you get my point.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "What they will need to guard against, which is perhaps what you're touching on, is that they have the conviction and judgement to pick the right bits of advice to use.'"
Exactly. I'd add objectivity and experience to that too.
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| Well, keep your fingers crossed and we'll see what tonight brings.
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| After watching under 20's game Gaskell ripped them pieces kicking game class
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
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| Quote: Longtime "After watching under 20's game Gaskell ripped them pieces kicking game class'"
What was the score?
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For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: Longtime "48-10'"
Great result for Saints.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Coaches discussing things with senior players is par for the course. Coaches freely admit to it. All ours have. But that's not what we are talking about here. Longy's suggestion was made when Anderson first came over, when he didn't know the players. It would be perfectly natural for players to suggest ideas. And Anderson recognised coaching potential in Longy.
This is about senior players discussing game plans and such like. The players are too close to the coaching team. Coaches should sort out game plans and the like; they should be separate from the players and able to make objective decisions about whether any ideas are correct going forward. I am concerned that the coaching team is just too close to the players for there to be objective decisions made. If Meli ends up on the wing, for example, that will simply confirm my concerns as in no way should Meli be ever seen on the wing again. However, that might just be messageboard gossip.'"
Well you look like an idiot now don't you. The 100% utter tripe you have been posting over this past week has been beyond annoying, from there being nothing wrong with our coaching to Lomax being unable to kick, utter utter tripe. As usual you have been proven wrong but I have no doubt you'll come back with some profound and ridiculous argument to try and suggest you was right.
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"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Backtrack!
Yeah. All it takes to win a match is feeling upbeat before it! Like they are going to be all gloomy with you Pete. Man, you make me laugh sometimes!'"
I told you the was a real buzz about the team this week when I was with them. They was up for this all week.
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| What a win. Well made up!
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "Well you look like an idiot now don't you. '"
Why? For stating a very obvious reality? Coaches should be objective and not be too close to the players. Things could get tricky for the Coaching Collective when we have a couple of off games.
Quote: BackrowSaint "The 100% utter tripe you have been posting over this past week has been beyond annoying,'"
you don't mind making yourself look stupid do you?
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