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| Quote: Saint Simon "Its the old talent im worried about, We'll persist with Wello at full back when its doubtful if he's even our 3rd best option there. We'll put Lance and Lomax in the halves when Lomax and Gaskell ripped into every team last year.
Either have Lomax at 1, Lance and gaskell at 6/7
or Makinson 1, Lomax and Gaskell 6/7 and Lance as impact hooker with Robes switching to effectively a creative loose forward.'"
I'm holding back a little for now, see what next weeks game brings about.....
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| Quote: Saint Simon "We'll put Lance and Lomax in the halves when Lomax and Gaskell ripped into every team last year. '"
A ridiculous exaggeration - Gaskell looked like a rabbit in headlights (as was only to be expected to be fair) for most of the season while Lomax only sporadically looked good at #7, particularly against the top teams where he usually frankly looked out of his depth. Both are young players with a lot of potential and quite likely to form a good HB partnership as the months/years go on, but they are far from the nailed on certainties at #6 and #7 that some seem to think that they already are.
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| Quote: Northampton_Saint "A ridiculous exaggeration - Gaskell looked like a rabbit in headlights (as was only to be expected to be fair) for most of the season while Lomax only sporadically looked good at #7, particularly against the top teams where he usually frankly looked out of his depth. '"
You're right, that [iis[/i a ridiculous exaggeration. Whilst they may have had moments when their youth was exposed, they, especially Lomax, were a joy to watch last year.
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| No Gaskell Lomax combination, No win verse Wigan.
Simple as.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "No Gaskell Lomax combination, No win verse Wigan.
Simple as.'"
yup, thats about the truth of it
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| Quote: bewareshadows "No Gaskell Lomax combination, No win verse Wigan.
Simple as.'"
Agreed.
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| Simmons is willing to wait until the last minute to see if Wello is fit to start against London...
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "Simmons is willing to wait until the last minute to see if Wello is fit to start against London...
If wellens is fit then that most probably sees makinson out of the seventeen
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| Why for the first game would we wait till the last minute to see if anyone was fit. It could be Roby or Lomax or lance, I could not care less. If we can't play without one of these in the opening game against London then I'm sorry we just are not going to be at the standard this year.
We played London last year with half an academy side out there and they did a better job than the all stars did at home early in the season. There are alot of games and if we are just going to trundle out the same faces for every match regardless of their preperation time then it does not exhume confidence for the first game never mind the rest of the season.
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "Simmons is willing to wait until the last minute to see if Wello is fit to start against London...
Wello is the captain. He's going to get a starting spot regardless. I'm sure I said that somewhere on here recently ...
... and I am the Oracle!
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Why for the first game would we wait till the last minute to see if anyone was fit. It could be Roby or Lomax or lance, I could not care less. If we can't play without one of these in the opening game against London then I'm sorry we just are not going to be at the standard this year.
We played London last year with half an academy side out there and they did a better job than the all stars did at home early in the season. There are alot of games and if we are just going to trundle out the same faces for every match regardless of their preperation time then it does not exhume confidence for the first game never mind the rest of the season.
AHHHHHHHHHHHH'"
I think Saturday will be very tough game and they have recruited some decent players for this year.
It's obvious Royce sees this as a tough game and wants his best team available and looks like wello is part of that.
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| Quote: St pete "I think Saturday will be very tough game and they have recruited some decent players for this year.
It's obvious Royce sees this as a tough game and wants his best team available and looks like wello is part of that.'"
I'm not saying we could throw anyone out there, but if we are going to push the same 17 out there week in week out, regardless of fitness and match practise then what's the point in having a squad.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I'm not saying we could throw anyone out there, but if we are going to push the same 17 out there week in week out, regardless of fitness and match practise then what's the point in having a squad.'"
I know what your saying but we all might as well come to terms that wello will always play if he's fit enough to take the field.
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| Quote: St pete "I know what your saying but we all might as well come to terms that wello will always play if he's fit enough to take the field.'"
Hope he proves me wrong and has a storming season
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Hope he proves me wrong and has a storming season'"
I hope that he proves us all wrong, but surely the starting point from the coach is that no one has a safe place, not even the captain. You have to take a spot off someone. Makinson earned his spot in the GF, it's now down to Wellens or whoever to prove in training they are better and take it back, not be waiting to the last minute to see if he is fit.
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