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Quote: Saint Simon "i'm certainly not a "yes" man'"

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Bradford counting down.......This is the last play, Long.......kicks it wide to Iro, Iro to Hall, Hall is trapped, back it goes to Hoppe, over the shoulder to Hall, there is Jonkers, here is Long, Long fancies it, Long fancies it, it's wide to West, wide to West, Dwayne West, inside to Joynt, Joynt, Joynt, Joynttttttttttttttttttttt, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, they've done it. Cue - Matthew Elliott falling off his chair :D:2168.jpg



Quote: No1 Saint "ok - we have debts we can cope with and we have a new stadium and business plan that will see us good in the near future - your team on the other hand sold your stadium paid your debts then realised you didnt have enough money to buy a new one.....then went begging to the local football team owner. You were spending so much on salaries you had to get permission to not comply to the cap which was fine other than the fact you wernt put on a transfer freeze (which was disgusting but typical).

[iHere's some facts for your sig

Saints - owners of a wonderful new stadium my council tax helped develop

- For Knowsley Road you get a nice wedge of cash and a new home

- For Central Park you get a great new supermarket and a timeshare in a football stadium[/i'"


Does that mean that they are Dave Whelans' rent boys?? a046.gif

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I'm surprised this thread has had so much air. After the first comment I thought we had heard enough

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Just because the RFL is not releasing the information does not mean that some people don't know who is involved. Just as I explained to you the other night the man of steel result was known to some people way before it was announced.

Your own chairman admitted on Radio Manchester last year that Saints were using those payments.
I don't know when the Saints shareholders meeting is but someone should ask the question regarding Saints liability to the tax man. I'm sure it will be asked at Wigan next Tuesday, that is of course assuming that the shareholders at Saints are not all "yes men".

I personally have been told the names of six clubs who have used these types of payments, some clubs have already made provisional statements in their accounts to cover them. It was one of the main problems at Wakefield for example.
Why do you think the Leeds South Stand rebuild has been cancelled?

HTH

There are a few more reasoned posters on here who will know what I'm on about!'"


With Saints and Warrington in for big tax bills they will have to make big cut backs.

No excuse for Wigan not to come top next year?

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Quote: No1 Saint "ok - we have debts we can cope with and we have a new stadium and business plan that will see us good in the near future - your team on the other hand sold your stadium paid your debts then realised you didnt have enough money to buy a new one.....then went begging to the local football team owner. You were spending so much on salaries you had to get permission to not comply to the cap which was fine other than the fact you wernt put on a transfer freeze (which was disgusting but typical).

[iHere's some facts for your sig

Saints - owners of a wonderful new stadium my council tax helped develop

- For Knowsley Road you get a nice wedge of cash and a new home

- For Central Park you get a great new supermarket and a timeshare in a football stadium[/i'"


HAHA! You're too fsking funny! Whelan bought Wigan RLFC as a club he saw as a sound investment, and as a fan of the club.

For Knowsley Road, you got less than asking price because Wimpey talked the board down in price!

As for Owners of a wonderful new stadium, you'll probably find that there's alot more outside investment than St Helens RLFC PLC put in, and all those investors will be taking their %age year upon year.

And with regards to the council tax, do you think its fair (or legal) that the Council should fund a private venture with public funding, especially as there are people in areas covered by St Helens council that do not support St Helens RLFC, OR show any interest in rugby. Legally if giving money to it, it could only be a community project (which has to benefit the majority of the community, which it wont), or it's a loan, which means it needs paying back (mortgage). Sorry, you dont own it! The difference is, we dont think we own a stadium that we dont! icon_lol.gif

And as for it being a fantastic stadium, someone made a serious slip up, considering your glorious new stadium can't even hold our 2011 Average Attandance, and no undersoil heating. icon_lol.gif You can make fun all you like about the fact that Wigan play at DW Stadium, Whelan is a Rugby fan, and attends all the games, and the DW Stadium has the best looked after turf in all of Super League, with (i recall) 5 full time pitch keepers, and facilities that you could only dream of. As much as I don't like football, the advantages of sharing a stadium with a premiership football team greatly outweigh the disadvantages...

As for micking the brigantes, passionate supporters who make noise and generate new songs, and visual support, rather than singing the same old bland tosh week-in, week-out, recognised by the Wigan RLFC, The RFL, and stadium owners as a good thing. As for Saints... yawn, same old tosh each week, the Slow "When the saints" sounds like a bad church gathering, and what the frig is that "oooohhh" thing about. Certainly if you watch the sky footage from Saturday, even though Wigan got beat we were STILL louder than your shower, and stayed longer! Wigan walk my arris!

Can't beleive you actually bit at the banner... k020.gif By the way... FOREVER IN WIGANS SHADOW (not Always), jesus, typical Saints, never were learned nothing in school.

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Quote: sally cinnamon "With Saints and Warrington in for big tax bills they will have to make big cut backs.

No excuse for Wigan not to come top next year?'"


Wigan have made provision on their accounts. There are other clubs who will have BIG tax bills.

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Can't beleive you actually bit at the banner...
You are 'taught' in school.not learned.

God,that was one bitter post.

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Can't beleive you actually bit at the banner...
We also learned not to use double negatives.

And how to spell 'believe'.

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Quote: Cragganmore Kid "We also learned not to use double negatives.

And how to spell 'believe'.'"


Be fair,he might not have started grammar at school yet

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Quote: snowdog "Be fair,he might not have started grammar at school yet'"


He'll now be wondering why his grandmother should be going to school...

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Quote: onedego "HAHA! You're too fsking funny![i[size (Why thank you)[/size[/i Whelan bought Wigan RLFC as a club he saw as a sound investment[size[i (Hardly - he like obi wan kenobi was your only hope)[/i[/size, and as a fan of the club.

For Knowsley Road, you got less than asking price because Wimpey talked the board down in price!

As for Owners of a wonderful new stadium, you'll probably find that there's alot more outside investment than St Helens RLFC PLC put in, and all those investors will be taking their %age year upon year.[size[i (So basically you just made this up?)[/i[/size

And with regards to the council tax, do you think its fair (or legal) that the Council should fund a private venture with public funding, especially as there are people in areas covered by St Helens council that do not support St Helens RLFC, OR show any interest in rugby. Legally if giving money to it, it could only be a community project (which has to benefit the majority of the community, which it wont), or it's a loan, which means it needs paying back (mortgage). Sorry, you dont own it! The difference is, we dont think we own a stadium that we dont! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: the18thman "Thought that would get you p!ssed off. So true. You might have beat us, but your still in our shadow. Always will be.'"


language timothy - you fat pie eater.

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Quote: onedego " You can make fun all you like about the fact that Wigan play at DW Stadium, Whelan is a Rugby fan, and attends all the games, and the DW Stadium has the best looked after turf in all of Super League, with (i recall) 5 full time pitch keepers, and facilities that you could only dream of. As much as I don't like football, the advantages of sharing a stadium with a premiership football team greatly outweigh the disadvantages...

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I,m interested in the above bit, Whelan is a business man. What will happen when Latics are relegated next season........................... I expect he will double the rent for the Asset Stripped Wigan Warriors.

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