Hey if you want slow PTB, less tries, go watch Union.

Or the league with the best players in the league, the NRL.

If you think its good for super league to have 50-60 point victories every week, your so wrong.

I still believe the only difference between the NRL and SL is the intensity in the matches every week. If the entire league was made up of teams the calibre or Wigan, Wire, Saints, Hudds and Leeds (minus McDermott) then players would have to learn to actually attack decent defences.

On another note, are you WireWonder reincarnated? Or just a conincidence that your another poster making Wire fans look awful.

FYI they don't have PTBs in union. But if it bothers you so much maybe you could start by writing a letter to your own club asking them not to slow the PTB down, not to turn the tackler, to only employ 2 men in each tackle, etc. I'm sure they'll accept that allowing more tries is good for the game and pleases people like "Ron" so it will all be worth it. Hey, be sure to tell them not to do it when they play us though, cos at Wigan we don't need any favours, you know what I mean Ron? You can tell them to continue throwing everything they've got at us, and we'll do our best to up our attack to match their defense. At Wigan we'd balk at the idea of expecting someone to lower their standards to make it easier for us, but there you go.

Hey we all know Wigan don't care about the good of the game, we know your history, don't worry about that!

Lowering the standard of English RL under the banner of "improvement"? Well, your doublespeak is improving if nothing else.

With all due respect Ron and Electricglidingwigoon, Jog on!

Saints struggled to break down the Wigan defense yet Gaskill played for 5 minutes!!

Scott Moore was the difference for me - his defensive for the Tomkins try was terrible add to that 2 knock ons when Saints were in good position plus the penalty.

I agree with that.

Sad One, Whenever you post you always talk sense .

I've banged on about this all year. Why have a player on the bench abd only use him fir the last ten mins?

Surely that is a disadvantage to us, yesterday most of our subs was rotated between lms, Graham and TP. Clough only come on for 15 mins and Gaskell the last 10. We are effectively playing most games with 15/16 men which must be a disavantsge.

I just find it strange and never seen this before.

Not least because we are almost guaranteed to lose a back to injury this season. We have needed that back on the bench so often. Had it been Eastmond, as would have been the case if he hadn't been injured, I'm sure we would have seen him on earlier.

Hopefully Pryce isn't injured again but rather Simmons was resting him for next week. The guy was playing in only his fourth game back after a year out and it showed.