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| Quote: St pete "I find it funny that leeds fans have done a fair share of trlooing since we lost on saturday night.
Looking at the current leeds squad and lack of youth they now have at the club i'd be pretty worried.
Webb, senior and peacock all look finished and add ali to that, they will be lucky to make the top four next year.
It's a three horse race now with saints, wigan and warrington.
Leeds have turned into the team that many said saints would be.'"
Wishful thinking regarding leeds.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "Mate, I know you're a good poster and probably just defending your team but don't just look at the 12 point drubbing (and I use that word on purpose as the 12 points in no way reflects the dominance Wigan had in that game) and look at the league table. We were 6 points and over a hundred points difference better than Saints over the season as a whole! I think that is pretty comprehensive and whilst it is by no means a certainty that this will be the case next year eventhough it looks very possible, as we stand at the moment you would have to conclude Wigan are, in fact, streets ahead of Saints.'"
Not disputing that Wigan are the better team now but the gap was 4 points in the league. So if Saints had won on Good Friday there would be no difference.
Hardly streets ahead, one game. |
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no,not streets ahead but it looks more positive for Wigan than it does for us imo - Mcguire is a good coach and Rads' input is a big factor I believe
with Leon & Kyle plus Soliola fit the difference between the teams is minimal, again imo
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The Communist Cap - dragging down success and aspiration to the levels of those who cba.: |
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In fairness, given you had no halfbacks, you did pretty well.
That said, you have won zip for 4 years, and are on a downslope.
Those fans who expect success over the next 5 years will be very disappointed I feel.
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| Quote: TheOtherOne "Not disputing that Wigan are the better team now but the gap was 4 points in the league. So if Saints had won on Good Friday there would be no difference.
Hardly streets ahead, one game.'"
IF, if, Wigan had won their home fixture it would have been 8 points?  |
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "That said, you have won zip for 4 years, and are on a downslope.'"
Two years, actually. |
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Good point I had forgotten the (now devalued) CC.
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Good point I had forgotten the (now devalued) CC.'"
I'm sure you'd have said that if you'd won the cup instead of the GF this year  |
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| Quote: Saint Simon "I'm sure you'd have said that if you'd won the cup instead of the GF this year ![]()
I would actually.
There is no doubt in my mind that the CC has (very sadly imo) fallen in the pecking order in terms of RL in this country.
Now it's all about the GF (which given the state of RL in this country is all about a knockout competition that starts in August).
There is only room for one knockout competition in RL in this country imo.
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| Quote: XBrettKennyX "Now it's all about the GF (which given the state of RL in this country is all about a knockout competition that starts in August).'"
Your tune will change should you win the CC next year but not the GF. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Your tune will change should you win the CC next year but not the GF.'"
Yes if this happens then the CC will be the traditional and most valued prize in RL. And the GF will be a silly publicity stunt that we brought in to copy the Aussies |
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The CC isn't devalued for me - a trophy is a trophy and i'd love to see Saints get to the final every season - it's a great day out and even better when you win
any Dragons fan will still gloat over their wembley appearance a few seasons ago even though they lost !
The GF is the pinnacle of course tho' for some teams getting into the play-offs is a satisfactory season - you have to e realistic...
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| Quote: wiganers "IF, if, Wigan had won their home fixture it would have been 8 points? ![]()
All ifs and buts. The big one for me was missing Leon. He controlled the show at the Piedome and I'd be pretty confident if he were playing at OT, he'd control it again. Shame really because for the 60 minutes we realised a Grand Final was going on, Wigan were there for the taking.
There wasn't that much between the two sides. Wigan were better and, as a result, won the thing, but I doubt Saints would be as pulverised as much as they were on the injury front again.
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| Quote: MSH "There wasn't that much between the two sides. Wigan were better and, as a result, won the thing, but I doubt Saints would be as pulverised as much as they were on the injury front again.'" Its a bit depressing from a Saints point of veiw, but the GF shouldn't be the only definitive game of the year. Wigan played an almost perfect game, whereas we turned up undercooked. Their kicking game, for example, was spot on whereas in the games leading up had been poor. We looked clueless at times and lethargic in defence. We also seemed to defend poorley outwide. Its no wonder we weren't in the game.
Judging that game alone leaves you feeling Wigan are by far and away the best team in the comp.
However...Wigan did lose a good number of games to their rivals Saints, Wire, Leeds and Hudds so they're not actually as bullet proof as they may seem. There's no reason that we shouldn't be confident of being in with a chance of toppling them next year. |
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