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Quote: Saddened! "Scully certainly wasn't at that level by the time he left. We lost him in installments.

Joynt retired and again wasn't all that hot when he retired. Perelini was a fine player but again we'd had the best of him. Fairleigh and Lyon were outstanding overseas players, but you never keep those players for long anyway.

I certainly don't remember us losing a player at 24 that will hurt us like this will. The closest I can think of is Connolly but he was hardly essential.'"


I dont know - I remember watching Alan Hunte and a few others make pretty poor replacements in the number 3 shirt when we lost Connolly - we suffered but we survived and it started to look up again ONLY when we invested in some quality players like Goulding, Newlove and Gibbs. The big problem we have in losing Jammer is if we think we can replace him with someone like Emmitt or Bryn , then were in the sh*t

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Quote: Mugwump "No. But he did know Wally Lewis, Brett Kenny, Peter Sterling, Paul Sironen, Wayne Pearce, Steve Mortimer, Noel Cleal, Eric Grothe ...'"


It's alot easier to throw a quote like his around when your looking at the NRL talent pool.....

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Quote: Mugwump "[i"No player is irreplaceable".[/i

-- Jack Gibson'"


Perhaps not, but the problem is that we've been a prop short for four years now anyway even with Jammer in the side (we've been getting away with it in the main [ibecause[/i Jammer is in the side). If he were to leave we would need to sign two absolutely top quality prop forwards, and given our inability to secure one over the last four years I wouldn't be too confident.

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But FWIW the Australian press has a habit of making up a load of old cock whenever it feels like it, so I'd hang fire before hitting the panic button.

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Quote: No1 Saint "It's alot easier to throw a quote like his around when your looking at the NRL talent pool.....'"


Jack Gibson (BOW to your phucking KNEES when I utter his name) knew more about RL than the entire collection of posters to this forum put together (excluding me, of course).

He's right. Graham is not irreplaceable - provided McManus has his head screwed on. It may be a case of buying like for like (Graham is one of our highest earners, so it's not like we'll be short of cash), or we may have to strengthen in other positions - perhaps split the money between a veteran Aussie or Kiwi prop on the verge of retirement (something like Fairleigh) and a young, promising and BIG southern hemisphere back row forward. Or split the money between two simply GOOD props. Or take the riskier option of trying to lure a genuine hot- stand-off to pair with Eastmond and hope their combined talents can offset the loss of forward power. There are always ways and means. You just need to be smart enough to spot them. IS McManus smart enough?

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Quote: Codarmysaint "We will be like wigan circa 1999. One last hoorah then years of medocricy. Swings and roundabouts though. You cant be the best forever and its our turn to once again be mid tablers.'"


I think you will have 2 bad years like we did.

05 and 06 were bad but for the last few years we have finished 3rd. Our recovery has not been as bad as some people think.

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i dont see it as a done deal. Australia is great, but why the assumption that every single person in this country wants to live there. Leon Pryce certainly doesnt.

I enjoyed my holiday there a couple of years ago, and could see myself living there - but I don't think I would ever do it. Its a big step to move 12,000 miles away from friends, family and your life as you know it. Just because it makes sense professionally for players to go, doesnt mean it does personally.

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Quote: Odemwingie "I think you will have 2 bad years like we did.

05 and 06 were bad but for the last few years we have finished 3rd. Our recovery has not been as bad as some people think.'"


Ahem ... you are only classed as "recovered" when the season has finished. icon_wink.gif

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Huge loss for you guy's if Graham does leave, his departure coupled with the retirement of Cunningham leaves you guy's with a big hole.

No Doubt you'll have plenty of money to spend, but seeing as there seems to be a Rugby League wide shortage of high quality props you may struggle to recruit well.

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From what i gather, nobody on here as seen this write up in any form what so ever. Nobody has a link to it, i've read rugby league world and it's not in there.

It's all $hit. Grahem will be here in 2011 and if we are still up there fighting for trophys then im sure he will resign. Just can't see him playing for anyother club in the world.

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Even if the article is hokum - I fully expect Graham to go to the NRL at some point.

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Quote: saint at wire "SHEENS NAMES TEAM TO PLAY MANLY
By Wayne Cousins
Tuesday, 9 March 2010
Wests Tigers Coach Tim Sheens has named his team to play Manly Sea Eagles in round one of the Telstra Premiership on Monday night, March 15, at 7pm.

Lote Tuqiri, Jason Cayless, Junior Moors and Mark Flanagan will make their Wests Tigers debut. Tuqiri has been named on the wing and will arrive in Sydney from England tomorrow to begin his three-year stint with the club.

New recruits Cayless (St Helens), Moors (Penrith) and Flanagan (Wigan) have been named on the interchange bench.'"


Get your head from up your a*se before you post eh? Life doesn't begin and end in Parr you know!

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Far more interesting is the news that Cayless seems to have returned from the dead like Lazarus. Not so injured as we were led to believe.

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Quote: Mugwump "Far more interesting is the news that Cayless seems to have returned from the dead like Lazarus. Not so injured as we were led to believe.'"


I must admit that disappointed me a little. He's apparently 'tearing it up' in training, when he left us he was crying about chronic injuries and never being able to play again. Must be the sunshine.

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Quote: Saddened! "

I must admit that disappointed me a little. He's apparently 'tearing it up' in training, when he left us he was crying about chronic injuries and never being able to play again. Must be the sunshine.'"


As long as he isn't 'training the house down' as he would be shipped out in no time.

Not often you see 'St.Helens' and 'Wigan' in an article about a NRL teamsheet.

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